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Truth and job interviews

Hi – I won my unemployment case but had to get an attorney to help me.  It was not comfortable for me to do it but sometimes you do what you have to do,

I had a jerk employer for 9 mos.  Now I want to take them off my resume.  Getting an attorney after an employer spells trouble for your future career.  Luckly I only invested 9 mos,

I had a second interview about 2 wks ago right before I was going to have this hearing with my attorney.  They saw I had worked for jerk employer and made comments about what they knew…all the shakeups, etc..which I smiled and said I knew nothing.

Now that I never heard back from them I have a feeling this is just going to harm my future employment chances.  I am thinking of deleting them off my resume…however, if I get caught that is grounds for dismissal.  Do you think anyone would ever catch that I worked for these creeps?  What should I say about the gap in my employment.  I was taking on-line classes, which I was.  I was also working on projects at home and spending some ME time.  Any suggestions?  Should I take it off???  The job itself was very good for me..it is just the people running the place that stinks.

I don’t want to lie but I need to work.  I am going on month #5 with no job.  I have been in healthcare since 1989.  I need someone who can offer me GOOD advice here.  Thanks.

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  1. Sunblossom Sunblossom says

    I hate that…..I have consistently left a job off my resume (only worked there 6 mos.) where I was let go because the goofball I worked for thought I was listening on his phone calls — who cared what he said…I went right to the union, proved I could not have been listening in and got reinstated and back pay, record purged, but I told them thanks for the back pay, stick the job where the sun don’t shine….I just leave it off…no one ever questioned me about it, right or wrong, now it has been over 15 years, so I don’t even bother going back in my history that far (makes me seem too old) — I’m not sure about the “legal” aspects….is leaving something that brief off lying…I guess you could just say it was so brief, and added nothing to your resume??!!

    Or I guess you could leave it on and and just make sure they don’t use them as a reference…they probably won’t call the old job unless you give them permission.

     

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  2. Storytaker Storytaker says

    BA – I’m really glad you won your unemployment case – we were all rooting for you!

    I don’t have a lot of experience in the work force but I do know that lying doesn’t pay – usually leads to more lies – in any situation.  I’m unclear why you would be penalized for working for dishonorable people – especially when it wasn’t that long – and I’m pretty sure legally no one can hold you responsible for the dealings of past employers – they will be hiring you not them.

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  3. Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

    Its a quandry, no question.  I wouldnt leap to the conclusion that fighting your previous employer over unemployment is a ‘known’ in the industry and puts a big ‘x’ on you as I’m not sure HOW they would know that.  My bet is that the fact you were there less than 1 year is more telling of a bad situation.

    You are right that if you get hired on the basis of an incomplete/inaccurate application, that subjects you to dismissal if found out.  So my counsel is to disclose and keep to your “not a good fit” story and say as little negative as possible. 

     

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    • Beach angel Beach angel says

      Hi – can you tell me what you mean by the fact that I was there less one year is more telling of a bad situation….meaning it was a bad place to be working..right?  In all my years of working since age 18, I have never worked for such ruthless and evil people.  The fact that they dropped the appeal at the last minute as I was sitting in front of my attorney tells all.  What creeps!

      I just want to continue to say it was not a good fit and drop it.  However, who is to say someone would not call them for  a reference when I would say I would rather they didn’t and explain the not a good fit scenerio,  My sister says who is stop an employer checking you out even before they make an offer and call this place?  So keeping them on my resume is still a good idea?

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      • Sunblossom Sunblossom says

        You can keep it on your resume but I think they need your permissions to call them….I would have an excellent and long list of good references and maybe even a couple of reference letters, both personal and work related….then they would have no need, maybe, to call that one miserable job….

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      • Beach angel Beach angel says

        I have an endless list of references from my employers along with references  letters that I received prior to my Florida move in 2005.  I am beginning to think this move was not a good one for me.  However, who would have thought this economy would tank?  I also turned 57 yesterday.  So I got the age issue on top of all this nonsense.  I am sure glad to get those evil doers out of my life once and for all!

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      • Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

        Yes, what I meant was that if a prospective employer looks at your resume and sees you were there less than 1 year, its a redflag that something was wrong (unless you had to move for family reasons or some other compelling and unforeseeable explanation for leaving an employer so quickly).

        Most employers these days dont give too much info as references  ….  primarily dates of employment, job titles, maybe salary, and yes/no eligibility for rehire is about it.    SO I wouldn’t fret too much about it, but I would have a story available on the front end.

        I’d keep it in, in the interview say  something lke “As you can tell from my resume, I make long term commitments to my work.  However, in the most recent instance, I took the job perhaps too quickly and it wasn’t a good fit for my workstyle.    I shine in an organization that emphasizes teamwork over individual achievement. (then switch quickly to the prospective employer)…Can you give me a sense of how teamwork and group achievement is emphasized here?”  

        That way you said something positive that came from the experience. you showed you want to be a teamplayer and you oh so subtley — without slamming anyone — put out there that you may have worked for egomaniacs!

         

         

         

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  4. watruw8ing4 watruw8ing4 says

    Unless you’re applying in a field where a company must know every job you’ve had, you can restyle your resume from a time line format to a skills oriented one. A lot of places prefer it if you have a long list of jobs or if you’ve stuck with similar type work. You don’t have to name any company you worked for in that style resume. But you can mention companies where you excelled to highlight the skills and experience you mentioned.

    If you are required to detail all your jobs in an application or interview, then, of course you must tell them. Gaps and short-lived jobs are expected in many fields these days and not taken as much of a sign that you are a problem employee as it used to. But the way I see it, you were laid off, right? That’s why you were getting unemployment. “I was laid off” is an acceptable answer to the question “why did you leave your last job”. If they press further, or indicate that they know about the bad things at the company, you can steer the subject around to an ambiguous ‘Yes, it was not the easiest company I’ve worked with, but {insert what wonderful achievements you managed there in spite of the difficulties, and how you learned from that experience here}. Then continue on to how that will help you be a better employee at the new company. The trick here is to make this short term job as relatively insigniificant to your entire, and otherwise successful, work history. 

    If you work in a small town, or in an industry that has a thick grapevine, they may have heard of your legal troubles. If they bring it up (they shouldn’t), let them know the law ultimately agreed with you. Then drop it. They may not want to take a chance on you anyway. In which case, as badly as you want the job, do you really want to work for someone who doesn’t want to take the time or effort to determine a potential employee’s value on their own?

    I once worked at a company for 11 months before I got so disgusted I quit. I took 8 months off and started looking again. At an interview, I was asked why I left and I used the “not a good fit” angle, which was true. The guy told me he knew enough people who had worked there and said he admired my tact. Then he said he would have taken a whole year off to recover from that experience. Then he hired me. Grapevine goes both ways.

    Best of luck to you.

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