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February 04, 2010
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Might be. But even I, Fayette, am not going to declare that one definitively!
Its kind of like saying that eating ice cream causes drowning.
(People eat more ice cream in summer. More people drown in summer. Hence eating ice cream casues drowning right?)
The economy sucks. The stock market is unstable. It will flucturate wildly and not based on business value.
ANd BOs approval ratings are way down. I read an interesting quote. People think he is a liar. THey don’t believe what he says. More peple than not think he lied through his SOTU address.
But if they are asked if they like him as a person….they say yes.
People are confunding and confusing. Love them anyway.
Guess we are reading different polls????
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
I guess we are seeing and hearing different polls.
He is UP in my world…and I am hoping that things will work out for the good of The People.
Your example sounds reasonable and down right true, but not quite applicable to what I am talking about,
When you say people think he is a liar, I and sure they are experience in the art of the tongue themselves, Politic is full of liars some more than others…I believe President Obama is LESS of a liar then previous Presidents, and probably every thing that comes out of his mouth is sifted through and tested more than most,
Even his birth place is questioned so why would “The people” who say he is a liar be a surprise?
Do you think after the marching is over they take their teabags down and brew tea?
Today’s (Friday, Feb 5th) poll show the following:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove which Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12. The President received a modest bounce in his ratings following the State-of-the-Union Address, but today’s results suggest that the bounce is fading (see trends).
Do you think that the 40% who strongly disapprove of BO are all members of the so called “tea party”?
What positive approval rating numbers are you looking at? I’d be curious and quite open to seeing those myself if they are different than the above. Do you have a link that shows the ratings are up?
I have found that you have to look at various polls. During the political campaigns I learned that some pollsters lean to the right, some are more objective and some lean to the left. If I remember correctly, Rasmussen is a right leaning poll. It all has to do with how questions are phrased when folks are polled, and who are in the polling sample. I’ve seen this more when you compare info and polls discussed by MSNBC (left leaning) and Fox News (right leaning). On the same day they can have polls that are very different. I know the presidents ratings are down – it happens to every president. He has to do something to turn things around. Not a very easy time for any politician.
I thought some of the recent fluctuation in the market was due to Obama announcing policy proposals to reign in the big banks on their risk taking practices. Recently I’ve seen commercials running about a certain bill – very dramatic commercials – asking folks to call their congress persons to vote no. I’m not sure, but it doesn’t say who is putting out the ads. They look like they are for the benefit of the average person but I wouldn’t be surprised that these commercials are being funded by the banking industry.
Once again: show me a poll that says anything much different than this. Lots of people claim things on here but can’t / don’t back them up. Show me a poll that is based in 2010 that shows BOs job approval with a higher postiive rating than those viewing his job performance negatively.
I would be open to reviewing it someone has a link.
I’m providing info on the poll you sited – meaning you can’t take it as exact – or even with in the margin of error they project if they are a poll known for leaning in one direction or the other. Rasmussen is known as a right leaning poll. I’m certain the pres ratings are down. If you do a search on polling you will find variations based on who does the pole – that was my point.
Lilly, I’m picking up a trend here. Every time someone provides data, facts or a link that is counter to your viewpoint, you simply dismiss it out of hand
Yes you will get errors of margin in polls………….but plus or minus that error of margin, right now in 2010, they ALL have BOs job performance approval rating as DOWN and negative. All of them.
Whether Rasumussen leans left/right/or in the middle ….the poll is consistent with other polls.
Dallas Lady – I could say you have a trend – meaning that any thing you site you believe to be fact since it’s in writing somewhere on the net. Nothing wrong with taking in all sorts of info and coming up with one’s own opinion. You tend to cut and paste a lot of right leaning material and nothing wrong with my pointing that out. My point is polls are manipulated based on who puts them out so there are greater margins of error in some then others – there are both right leaning and left leaning polls – news agencies, blogs, etc. and just because you find something in print to post – so what! Nothing wrong with taking in lots of material and voicing an opinion of one’s own. It’s not only opinions that you back up with something written on the net that are valid. We all do have minds of our own, ability to read a multitude of sources, and make statements based on many resources after forming our own opinions. Is there some rule on here that I must cut and paste what someone else has written to have an opinion that’s valid? I don’t feel the need to site a specific writing to make a comment worth consideration. I feel capable of reasoning on my own after taking in lots of materials. Pay attention to world events just as you do. I don’t always agree that your sites are neutral news reporting groups. One can find anything on the net, post it, and make it sound as if they know more then others – or that some how their opinion is more valid because they cut and paste. I don’t feel intimidated by someone elses written word – the internet if full of info that can support any issue you want to research. Again – the poll you site is more right leaning – there are left leaning polls. Siting something in writing is fine – but I can give my own opinion – you don’t have to accept it. I guess my trend is that I like thinking for myself. I could come on here and site the Huffington Post on many things – but it’s far left leaning – so I try to take in all info and come up with my own opinion.
I’m still waiting on a poll — any poll, left/right/middle – that shows BOs job performance as up.
Do you have one? WOuld love to see it, and have said so repeatedly, but so far–one has not been produced.
I’ve posted ABC newslinks to your comments. I’ve posted University of Idaho’s website to your comments. I have posted Politico (non partisan) to your comments. And your have dismissed all of those out of hand.
I haven’t posted Fox News. I haven’t posted Palin’s website.
If Rasmussen is too right leaning for you, again–where is a poll that says BO’s job performance rating is positive????
Opinions are like derrieres. Everyone has one, but only a few handful of people actually want to see yours. I dont care who it is that you borrow yours from.
I would simply ask that when you make statements that are presented as factual — not opinion – that you back them up with sources of your facts. Because I’ve caught quite a few factual statements you have made that do not hold up under scrutiny.
I really hadn’t kept up. I thought today’s plunge was due to the new jobs numbers and the possibility that the US could lose it’s AAA rating. Which means that we would have to pay higher interest rates on our national debt. If you watch any of the business networks, you know that the financial ‘talking heads’ always speculate as to why the market goes up or down. Sometimes I think it’s kind of funny to go to the different networks and see how they all disagree with each other. lol
I know that some of BO’s policy positions e.g. General Motors takeover, raising the federal debt ceiling, tend to make investors nervous. Maybe that’s more what the market is reacting to? Maybe they think that if he’s more popular he’ll spend [even] more and affect the AAA rating even more? Those are just wild guesses on my part, as I have very little knowledge of the stock market.
I guess you must have an opinion, or you wouldn’t have posted this.
That really is all it is is an opinion(lol)) but…….I remember back when things were looking up and it seem that the rich may have to pay more and lose more , the market plunged…This may be a good topic for an economist, I’ll will try to find one,
Thanks for your input.
You know, that’s a good idea, finding an economist. Sort of a ‘Stock Market for Dummies’ post. lol. Kitty O’Keefe, who hosts one of the blogs on VN posts financial stuff, but I don’t know about the economics part.
Some body has to do it (lol) I don’t have the time or the desire,handling my own is enough.