Today ,I was shocked as I find more people that I know,(thought I knew) have decided to” cave in” and go with the flow of “if money isn’t in it I will do what it takes to get it”Even if means going against the principles that they have sworn by, We all have weaknesses, but I would hope there is limit of what we would not do for money ? Or at least think we would not do for money?
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thank you so much Lisa, that helps a lot. I know he tried to blame me for so much stuff, but like I told all of his family and mine none of that added up to a divorce. I do realize it's his needs, it just hurts so bad to think how many years he's
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I would not do anything to hurt someone else, family, husband, or children. I would not go against my moral values or do anything illegal.
Looking at the previous responder, I admired a law of drug testing to a certain extent but not random testing. I live in Alberta Canada and we do have drug testing on many companies for when you first hire on. If you are involve in a situation or accident, you are ask for drug testing. If you show positive, depending on the company and the length of time you have been with them, you may be required to go for treatment. If it is part of the hire on package for construction, you are terminated and are not allowed to be rehired for 6 months. In both cases, if you come back, you sign the paper that you will allow for randon testing for 2 years. Since they have this policy, accidents have decreased.
If you are on the construction site and live in camp, they have a dog that goes around to the rooms for drugs.
Thanks for your response,I see the need for drug testing , it probably need improving, but my DH works in chemical plants and many lives are threaten by the mere mistake of a person not in their right mind,.
Sometimes laws that are unfair seem to be what has to be done like the old saying It rains on the just and the unjust…
I al;s understand Petite position, we should want to feel good about what we chose to do, sometimes we have to come to the conclusion, after wards. Job description are a little bit different than setting you own rules and standard to go against your own morals, but we each ahve to live with ourselves if nobody else do….it si important that we respect what we chose to do,
well I think the answer depends on what are your circumstances when you decide what line you would draw in doing things for money. I can say with reasonable certainty that I would not do harm to people (most people anyway) for money. I would not hurt any of my loved ones or even strangers for money,
I wonder how people living below poverty line in third world countries with babies dying of hunger would do, I think their answer may be a little different, I do not know for sure, but I think it is much easier to take the moral high ground when you are not so hungry and sick that you cannot think straight and you are sitting there watching your children die of starvation or be butchered by armed thugs because law and order has broken down in your world.
I agree Penny, and the one thing I try hard to remember is to say “In my right mind” or “as long as I believe as I do now”…to cover the bases because things change and many do what they do not expect of themselves to do. I also realize most things we say we would never do we sometimes find ourselves doing, so I try to keep in mind that I am capable of what the next person is , except for the grace of God and sound judgment to make better choices…so it is not about perfection it is just don’t tell me you are so honest and truthful and then for money you change with the “wind” I am not talking about a storm just the wind. Thanks , I think we need to think about our choices and what value they are to us individually.
Great reply, very thoughtful, thank you.
Put this way, yes, I may change my mind because for my kids when they were young, I would maybe do different if it was a matter of food in their mouths. Right now I would say I would not but I have never been put in that position.
Petite, I really admire your position, and I needed to hear your story today, you see , growing up without as a child, I learned that money is power ,but the one thing more powerful sometimes than money can make happen is sometimes what trust can do in one’s word. It is hard to deal with people when their moral value can be move by dollar signs, The thing that gets me the most when people use it as an excuse to “hurt ” someone, I once invested a large sum of money in a business that I believe was a good venture,as time went by and the rules began to change I felt “uncomfortable ” with their ability to make the business pay clients at a time in the future, I had the opportunity to sell out my portion to a group of schools and get my funds back, but because I was not sure the security of the business would be in place when my “clients” needed the service….I option to lose my investment…I did not want to bring even strangers to lose,even though it would be a very small investment for them, but the fact they offered to serve these people in the event of their child being lost/missing…that would be devastating to me if the service was not in place for even one person that I promised it would be there….this amount invested I had to pay back, but the principle was greater to me than the money I would have received,,,sometimes you feel you are alone and out of touch because you choose not to follow the money…Thanks
I would not break any laws: The laws of existence like “You reap what you sow”; the laws of the bible ten commandments like “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”; or the laws against society that are man’s written laws with criminal sentences.
Those are good guidelines to go by dynamomma, I too “respect” the law of the land, those in general are based on the ten commandments, thank heavens we are not in the time of this country where for me to be writing and reading would be a criminal crime , so laws that are man made I have to analyze them and process them before I totally commit to their validity,
In other words there may be things against the law I would do for or not for money …but for the cause of what’s right and good fo the whole.
I tried and tried to think of a good answer and you know what? It just boils down to the word love. I don’t love money. Money to me means alot of things but love, no. Money means the basics; food shelter and clothing. I never really had more than that growing up and sometimes not enough of it. Consequently, people who did love money were mean in ways that only they thought was their God given right. I remember a Christmas where my siblings and I didn’t have anything except what the landlord brought us. We each got puppets. They were the most adorable things. What to this day I cannot understand is how both my parent’s family never helped out in this area. They even did some very selfish things. We were invited of course to some of the gatherings and got to see the generosity of others to others. Then, I thought we were just not good enough. Now I see it for their indifference to feelings of others and the indulgence brought on by their love for money. That was such a bleak Christmas for us. My father lost his job in Arizona. I was 11 and we moved back to Colorado. My parents went on welfare until things started working out some. Dad, being an alcoholic made sure his needs were met though. After he got his paycheck, he would pay the bar tab and start the next one. We would go to the bar and get our allowance. I use that term loosely. We would try to get money to buy just the simplest things. New shoes, clothes, coats but he would “shine us on”. We were the charity case in the neighborhood. Funny, that’s what we called it. My mother began to bury her head in her bible early on. Anyway, I’m sure there are worse stories out there and I’m going to count my blessings. Something I learned at an early age.
Money is only good for what it can buy. Now, If I were to win the lottery, I wouldn’t even begin to comprehend what I would do with it. I’ve learned to live comfortably without it. Sad? Probably. One thing is for sure, I will never have to answer a question involving love of money.
My father was much like yours, my Mother read the bible also, but found it to be a source of change as she read it with a different view, and changed our lives by joining a church that was totally out of the box…,I like your answer, and for the reason Love can not be bought or sold, it can only be given away…people who try to do other wise with it are receiving a counterfeit version , and guess that is why the world is the way it is ……Even the Beatles believed that (song : Money Can’t Buy Me Love; I am gladyou have the mindset you have, and the love to give, we had family that was not there for us, but I learn to meet people on common ground and love them despite the issues that would cause us so much pain. Thanks for sharing
We used to joke that we grew up inspite of them. He died at 65yrs and was selfish to the end. We were all sitting in my mothers living room right after his death and my Mom burst into the room singing “I’m free” with her arms in the air. Really. She’s living a happy existence with her husband of 12yrs. He’s younger than she is too.
With my mother’s faith we would not have made it, but I learned early That when death occurs it is not totallya lost everyone, lose and gain …sometimes more of one than the other, my mother gained her freedom to travel a little and meett new people and most of all be in chargeof want little money she received she did well , and taught us how to stretch a dollar and budget.
correction it was suppose to be WITH OUT my mother’s faith we could not have made it.
Very well said. My hat is off to you for taking the higher road.
I use to work in a small screening factory. One day I was working next to a lady while she was pulling out the cutouts from the die cutter(I think that is what it was called been 20yrs ago) it shut on her arm doing a lot of damage. A week later they called me into the office and offered me a raise I thought cool. Until the next day they wanted me to testify in their behalf. Not cool.You know I gave my 2 weeks notice and gave the lady a ride to a lawyer out of town It felt great.But if I was the main provider, would I have done the same thing I don’t know??
I use to work in a small screening factory. One day I was working next to a lady while she was pulling out the cutouts from the die cutter(I think that is what it was called been 20yrs ago) it shut on her arm doing a lot of damage. A week later they called me into the office and offered me a raise I thought cool. Until the next day they wanted me to testify in their behalf. Not cool.You know I gave my 2 weeks notice and gave the lady a ride to a lawyer out of town It felt great.But if I was the main provider, would I have done the same thing I don’t know??
I understand, I lost my first job because, I turned down the sexual advance of the boss son, I knew if my brothers found out they would get in trouble, so my mother and I discussed it and felt walking away from a job that may prove to be a miserable place to be was the best answer, if I wee the provider I still don’t think I would have gave in …but I probably would not have quit, unless it was made to difficult,
Just a thought, everyone. We all state that we would not do anything illegal, or against the law. Have you, every year, been 100% totally honest with your tax return filing?? Don’t answer that! ;-D But those are the kind of ‘little’ things that get us.. Sometimes something that is illegal shouldn’t be, and sometimes something must be done because the ‘need outweighs the possible consequence’.. Just something to think about.
Usually none of us would break the law simply for money. But what if the money was needed to purchase something absolutely necessary to your survival? Like your rent, food, power, phone, basic needs?? A doctor visit or medication?? Just something to think about, because life is not black and white. It is every shade of gray between.
On the other hand, there are jobs I swore I would never do again, because I had to do them to survive. Like Nurse Aid in a nursing home, it was hard work, the patients were not treated well because we were understaffed and always in a hurry. But I needed an income and it was there. Waitressing. Ran my feet off and people still weren’t happy! (OK I admit it, I was not a great waitress. Fair, but not good…) Yet now with the economy the way it is, if I had to get another job, those are the ones that are always available, that and Home Health Care. I don’t have the strength I had in my younger years, so I may not be able to even do that!!
Thank you for posting this thought-provoking question!!
That’s true. But you wouldn’t be doing these things for the love of money would you? Maybe the necessity. When you where running your feet off, you were’nt thinking about how much you love it, but maybe how irritating it is because of money, you have to work hard physically. Just how I would see it.
good point. so it would be love of your family, which is totally different. You are exactly right. Seems like we all feel that way– we don’t love money, but it is nice to have a little extra sometimes! so I juggle it around a lot..
Are you kidding? I rob Peter to pay Paul so much Peter doesn’t invite me to Christmas celebrations anymore! Lol.
Moongoddess ,Im late on this one but this is too funny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!