| Glenn Beck to Jesus: Drop Dead | Hot Conversation |
Very interesting article regarding social justice as taught in most Christian religions:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-james-martin-sj/glenn-beck-to-catholics-l_b_490669.html
Posted in news, spirituality.
Related posts:
30 Responses
Stay in touch with the conversation. Subscribe to the RSS feed for comments on this post.
You must be logged in to post a comment.
I used Noxzema from the time I was old enough to wash my own face, all through school and into adulthood. Then I decided it wasn't 'sophisticated' enough and went with higher priced, higher end products. About 5 years ago, I went back to I used Noxzema from the time I was old enough to wash my own face, all through school and into adulthood. Then I decided it wasn't 'sophisticated' enough and went with higher priced, higher end products. About 5 years ago, I went back to my old faithMost of the above posts are by women, and many of you seem insecure about your sexuality at your age. Please don't be! While it's true that many of us guys prefer younger women, there are some (like me) that find women over 50 much sexier.
How funny....i only very recently (within last week) read the coconut oil articles on the web. (100 uses, 80 uses etc.) so i bouht some and ordered some from amazon. (Im a stockpiler.)
Have started trying some of the uses. I tried using it a
If your going to be financially secure enough to venture out and see whats available in the B & B field...take your time and check it out. If you have to jump into a job..just to have one..you will not be happy. Hope you get the time to find wh
I think Glenn Beck is a nut case. He preaches fear…..it gets ratings!
Yup….and he like to cry alot – what is that all about?
And ratings mean money…lots and lots of money.
Funny, I think the same of many of the folks on The Huffington Post………
Whenever I read a story like this, that is, when someone is accused of something based on one or two sentences, I like to know the full context of those sentences. I am not a regular viewer of GB, so I searched his website. Couldn’t really find that particular item; that doesn’t mean it’s not there. My husband, however, is a regular viewer, so I am somewhat familiar with some of GB’s programming. Therefore, I will take a guess as to the context of this statement.
I know that GB has run several programs on progressivism in America. The terms ‘social justice’ and ‘economic justice’ are terms that were used in the Social Gospel movement of the early 20th century. This movement was considered the religious arm of the progressivism. Another name for this religious movement was Christian socialism. Sooooooo, my [educated] guess would be that GB was advising folks to be aware of when individual churches began morphing principles of Christianity into progressivism. There is a fine line.
Since GB is, by his own declaration, a Christian, I would doubt that he is encouraging people to leave Christianity.
Articles like this one (regardless of the politics involved), in which one or two sentences are taken out of context and then a whole [unsubstantiated] theory is drawn from them, really bother me. The main reason being is that the writer appears to be pushing for divisiveness rather than understanding. And, coming from a man of the cloth, it is particularly sad, IMHO.
I’m not a fan of Glen Beck generally as I don’t like his “oh the drama” approach to expressing himself.
I’m not a fan of discussing the personal matters of religion and religious beliefs with others.
And I’m really not a fan of so called religious figures who write articles like this one.
For all the reasons Olga indicated………and a whole lot more.
perhaps someone should tell Mr Beck that Jesus already dropped dead, and did it for him and the rest of us.
seems he’s missed the point.
I think god invented hell for people like glen beck
The guy should be an actor… he missed his calling.
True!
Oh, but he was. Glenn on Cheers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUn-bixAI6w
HA! Go figure!
you could say the same about almost anyone on tv, plus any politician I might say…
I remember Glenn when he was simply a quasi-shock jock on a Baltimore radio station…
did anybody see SNL (tonite), Really!?! with Seth & Jerry? Very funny!!
If any of you are interested, a little more info on the term ‘social justice’ :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice
I think now you see why Beck said what he did.
I tried to respond to “Patriot” and there was no place to click - no “submit your response”, so I don’t know what happened to my comment. To sum it up: It seems to me that Republicans seem to be afraid of a little Social Justice. Why is that? Because it might benefit the Poor in your country?
I don’t get it either. Are we losing our humanity? It sure looks like it is becoming a “conservative” mentality.
K, the way I’m reading your statement it sounds as if you believe that conservatism and humanity are incompatible. If that is what you’re saying, I beg to differ. It’s not whether one viewpoint is humane or not, it’s about the fact that they differ on the best way to help our fellow human beings who need help.
Sabina, there are many of us non-republicans who don’t buy the following concept of ‘social justice’ as you see in this link I believe this is what Mr. Beck was referring to when he used the term):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice
It’s not because it may benefit the poor, it is because there is no objective standard of ‘social justice’. The way I like to put it is:
Given that life is basicall unjust/unfair and given that we all have our own perspectives as to what constitutes justice/fairness, who gets to decide what is just/fair? Therein lies my problem with the concept of ‘social justice’.
Social justice is this: those of us who have “enough” will stop grabbing for more, so that some who do not have “enough” can get some – and those who are so inclined will work to help them get it.
Social injustice is this: those who already have enough keep thinking they need even more – and will do anything they can to get it – even when it means those who don’t have enough will never get it.
So, how much is ‘enough’ and who gets to define it? And why do they get to define it?
It is relative. If you have good health care and a comfortable income, social justice includes caring about the fact that many have neither. Even if you don’t want to actively do something about the problem, social justice includes at least not blocking the efforts of those who, in good faith, are trying to help those who have neither get one or the other.
If it’s relative, then there would be folks that disagree on what the problem is, and maybe even on whether there is a problem. What/who defines ‘good health’ and ‘comfortable’.
And when you say not blocking the efforts……what if those efforts affect others negatively, or take away freedoms………what if you question the ‘good faith’ of others?
I’m not trying to be contentious here, just trying to demonstrate that it’s not that simple.
that is so untrue, so unjust…those of us who come from socialist countries for the freedom of America to work hard and achieve our dreams resist having our government now wanting us to still keep working to pay for those who sit back and do alot of talking but not any of the work…Anything “we” have is not being “grabbed for” it is worked for. And, I have the freedom to give, and I do, without anyone telling me to….but, I will not feel bad for what I have, because of where I came from and how hard it was to get to where I am today. Don’t tell me “it’s enough”, because , the more I get, the more I can give. And I am sure that is how it is for many of those whom YOU say have “enough”…..just my opinion..=]
I came from a socialist country and I do not object to paying more for those less fortunate. I know that there will always be a segment of society that is content to do nothing and take from the system but there are those who have fallen on hard times and need a safety net to stop them falling through the cracks and I do not mind paying for them. I am not sure how we can separate the two but if we do nothing many innocent people will suffer.
There was a report on tv a couple of days ago where a bunch of teabaggers where jeering a man protesting them. This man was sitting down holding a sign. He had parkinson’s disease and would be a prime examble of why we need healthcare reform, but they ridiculed and yelled at him. It was disgusting and made me wonder what happened to our country and compassion for our fellow human beings.
I know that many will say there are programs for people like this poor guy, and it is true there are, but they are overcrowded and underfunded. But why should we live in a country where sick people have to go on government funded programs to get help. If they are willing to pay for health care, they should be able to buy it and at this time it is very unlikely that there are any insurance companies who will l take people like a parkinson’s disease patient. How can people join a movement that does not understand that.
in my view, providing healthcare should be a basic service of the government, if one is too poor to eat regularly, has no home, no prospects of being physically able to work, or in fact there are simply no jobs to be had, then whether or not there is affordable insurance is a moot point, they still will not get it.
As for insurance, if you want to go that route, then the insurance needs to cover ALL of one’s healthcare expenses, not just the tiny fraction that they do now. A person even with insurance can be forced into bankruptcy when thier annual deductible is at minimum 4,000 dollars a year, their copays are ridiculously high and they still have to pay in many cases for their medication because it is not on the insurance company’s formulary, which is usually limited to the oldest generic drugs known to man.
Far too many inequities in our current system, offering one more purchaseable insurance program is not going to help.
totally agree with you. It is an extremely dismal situation in a “great” country like the US of A. It is shameful, how the poor in this country are treated, and with the Health Care system that has been in place to this day, the middle class will be among the poor real soon. A divide from poor to rich, like in the Middle Ages. When a country does not have a population, other than the wealthy, who is being kept healthy and who can have healthy off-spring, that country is doomed. It is truly hard to believe that America is supposedly one of the richest places, has such enormous problems with poverty. It is also unbelievable, that the Babyboomers, who are now in the majority [with many of them being retired], have to accept mediorce health care, such as generic drugs, that might not even work well in some cases. It truly all boggles the mind.
I laugh when I listen to people who are afraid of “another government bureaucracy” making decisions about health care. Heck, could a government bureaucracy be any worse than the insurance bureaucracy.
I worked in medical offices for 15 years and the insurance prohibitions would make your head spin. Just one horror story was a young woman in her early 20s who had a bad Pap smear and was told to have a repeat. She did and it showed that the original Pap smear had been read incorrectly by the lab. BUT, because of that erroneous Pap smear, her insurance dropped ALL OF HER GYN COVERAGE. What kind of medical care does a young woman need most? Gyn care! But because of a LAB ERROR that she conscientiously followed through on, she no longer had gynecology coverage.
Now–how can any decision by a government bureaucracy be worse than that?
You are right, nothing could be worse than the health insurance system we have now. The problem is that so many people have no experience of these insurance company horrors and thus are susceptible to scare tactics of those saying a government take-over would be a bad thing. If only people knew what ill effects have ensued because WALL STREET is making their health care decisions now. Hopefully with health care reform now at least a few of these managed care horrors will be rectified.