First Lady Laura Bush – Is there a double standard for vacations? Most Liked Hot Conversation

From everything I can find online, apparently, like Nancy Regan before her, Mrs. Bush got more media attention for replacing the missing and chipped White House china (with donated money) than any concern for her vacations.

Other than going back and forth to the Crawford Ranch (which became rather like the second White House), I could find only a few references to Mrs. Bush’s vacations.

For 15 years, Laura Bush and four female friends have escaped together for a week every summer. “I have a group of friends that I grew up with in Midland, Texas, and we hike every summer at a national park.”

July 8, 2001 – Yosemite National Park, California.

July 27, 2003 – Olympic National Forest, Washington.

July 20, 2004 – Glacier National Park, Montana.

July 23, 2006 – Denali National Park & Preserve, Alaska (she arrived by train).

May 1, 2007 – Zion National Park, Utah.

June 2008 – Mount Desert Island, Maine.

I cannot seem to locate which National Park, if any, they went to in 2002 and 2005.

Naturally, these hiking vacations did include friends (from what I could find, there were 4 friends with Mrs. Bush) and sometimes Air Force II and always with Secret Service Agents and some staff, as is necessary for a first lady.

Then, we have the “working vacations”:

July 2005 – with daughters on an African safari.  Also, part of this “vacation” was spent with young female AIDS victims in Zambia listening to stories of abuse and taking mosquito nets to southern Africa so children could be protected from malaria.  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4757716

October 2007 – Mrs. Bush traveled around the middle east raising awareness of Breast Cancer.   http://www.healthcentral.com/breast-cancer/c/78/15314/laura-bushs

March 2008 – Mexico.  More breast cancer awareness. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004283760_apmexicolaurabush.html?referrer=digg

March 2008 – Haiti. To promote increased funding for AIDS patients and support education. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2008-03-14/news/0803140229_1_aids-relief-hiv-positive-laura-bush

From what I could ascertain, none of these “working vacations” was really a vacation, except quite possibly the safari.

Do I see a difference between Mrs. Obama’s Spain vacation and Mrs. Bush’s vacations?  Yes, I do and I am glad I had the time to research this in response to questions posed in another thread referencing Mrs. Obama’s trip.

First, I find that when Mrs. Bush traveled overseas, she did so with a mission; it was not a mere vacation.

Second, her hiking vacations with her friends were in United States National Parks.

Third, we were not a nation with a large number of people without jobs and I don’t recall this first family asking us (or most of us) to sacrifice.

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  1. Olga Olga says

    Thanks so much for the research TL. I’m headed out to exercise class now, but will check in later for further discussion.

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  2. Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

    I read LBs book. She referenced a trip to the Grand Canyon in the book with friends , rafting the river, etc as a culmination of all their nationally hiking trips– their Big Kahuna so to speak. May be one of your missing 2.

    The fact she legitimately chose out of sheer love for Americas landscape and low profile destinations says a lot about her character. Don’t quite see her wearing $450 sneakers to soup kitchens either.

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  3. Generic Image moongoddess says

    It sure is quiet. 

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    • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

      I noticed the quietness.  However, I took up the challenge and here it is.

      TL ♥

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        I’m going to add that there is also almost no activity on my other post The Buck Stops Here – which seems to tell me that people are not having an easy time with FACTS.

        TL ♥

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      • Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

        I’m waiting for all the hooplah because the govt announced today that the recession was over in June.

         

        Huurah!  It’s working!!!  hahaha

        Unemployment hasn’t pudged.  Businesses are operating in an uncertain regulatory and tax environment and don’t know the implications and are scared to act. 

        But the government says the recession is over!!!  Isn’t it great?  (sarcasm dripping from every word).

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        Actually, I rather liked what I read today about it.  Since the recession is over, does that mean that when it goes (back) downhill, that President Obama will now take the blame for it?

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      • Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

        ROFLMAO….good point~!!!!

        I was wondering about the timing…..such a grand announcement, just a few short weeks right before the mid term elections………..maybe the country will buy that we have afinancial  turnaround all at the policies of BO and they won’t be so dour at the polls on the Dems–ya think? ;-)

        Oh by the way…here’s an article from Newsweek about the recession ending….oh look:  Its dated July 2009~!!!!!  We thought it was over then too~!!!!

        http://www.newsweek.com/2009/07/24/the-recession-is-over.html

        Oh and here’s another one from CNN inJune 2009~!!!

        http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/19/markets/thebuzz/index.htm

        (Dallas Lady is rolling her eyes in bemusement about the timing of it all)

        Ah but the stock market did it’s knee jerk, points up reaction today.  Which can come down just as quickly as it went up, based on some international announcement tomorrow no doubt. 

        I’m a cynic, no doubt.

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        We all have every right to be cynical, I suspect.  We’ve been around at least a half a century and never seen things quite like we’re seeing now – in any area of life, but especially politics!

        I truly believe, based on the facts of my Buck post, that we must have a Republican – or even more conservative – Congress.  I think the tea party types and many others recognize that.  Let’s hope it’s a large percentage of the country!

        And, let’s hope this:  “The Democrats are getting close to enough votes to pass the Dream act. This will give amnesty to an unlimited number of illegals up to the age of 36″ is wrong! http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/usimmigration-deptmemo-amnesty

        But, it’s obvious to me why they’re doing it and trying to do it very quickly!

         

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      • Olga Olga says

        And beyond the amnesty…………it’s setting up an entire class of people to feed the military. IMO, it’s a de facto draft by ethnic profile. Where are the liberals on this? Is party loyalty more important than human lives????

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        I found out on one of my first threads after I signed up for VN that the planet was definitely more important than human lives.  How much more party loyalty!

        TL ♥

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  4. Audrey B Audrey B says

    If she hadn’t had the attitude of “Now I’m (finally) proud of my country or “Let them eat cake!”, I think some of us could have let this vacation go. I did notice that it’s been awhile since other First Ladies got criticized for taking vacations. We wouldn’t mind if they weren’t pricey or If We could also scrape the money to even just drive down the road to a Park. But Nooo, Mrs. Obama had to make a big production out of it! Then on top of that, they get to go to Martha’s Vineyard.BTW, did anyone see that video that was made in China that showed Mrs. Obama acting like Marie Antoinette? It’s a hoot even if the translation is a bit messed up. It’s funny how the other countries have made a laughingstock of us because of this President & his wife. Whoever saw a US President kowtowing before? Times have changed eh?

    What did I do? I went 250 miles to see my dear old mother, & another time I got to see the PA Grand Canyon on the cheap over a long weekend, about 100 miles away. I’ll be happy if I can charge the credit card to drive 300 miles to see my son get married in a couple weeks. I did these trips in cars that were 10 years old or older!  So Yeah, I’m mad!I’ve been unemployed off & on for the last couple years & see no end to it yet! I’m going to a job fair in my area, but I’ll Bet you that a couple thousand people are showing up or more, including a couple of my kids. Those thousand had “vacation” alright, but it’s no fun when you’re worrying about paying bills. Meanwhile, Michelle takes her darlings to Spain, all dressed up, etc.

    I haven’t seen Mrs. Obama help children with reading, go comfort those with AIDS in Africa, or see about the Haiti victims even though she ran that beautiful ad. Oh, I forgot they did go down to the beach & saw about the BP oil spill. Wait, I didn’t go to any beaches this summer, oil spill or not… I don’t get to go golfing, can’t afford it even though (ahem) I have plenty of time. I guess I could get a low paying job working at the course. Oh I do have one thing in common with Mrs. Obama: I do Gardening Too!  I have been, and will continue to do so Because this way I will have food this winter in my tiny little house that I can barely afford to heat & will be using the wood stove again.

    Thanks for posting this! I wanted to vent about Mrs. Obama! I hope that those Who voted for the Obamas & still love them Read this & Spout it back to us! I double dog dare them! I hope I get hate mail here because I’m soo damned sick of tese “victimized”namby pamby panty waisted Liberal dumdums with bleeding hearts that are bleeding me Dry!

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    • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

      Wow, Audrey!  Tell us how you really feel! (LOL!)  Love it, love it.  I, too, have a lot of time on my hands with no money (a year and a half “vacation” from the workforce!), so I can sympathize totally.

      In a previous thread (Political Satire) I was “challenged” as to whether or not I begrudged Laura Bush her travels, so I set about to show the difference in how and why the two first ladies traveled while being a resident of the White House.

      Apparently the facts are too glaring for those who support Mrs. Obama.

      TL ♥

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  5. Generic Image mayr malool says

    we were not a nation with large numbers of people without jobs! ?? Really? maybe that’s because it was her husband who cost us all those jobs! then slithered out of town with piles of money! how biased are you!!?

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  6. Generic Image mayr malool says

    we were not a nation with numbers of people out of work!!? really! maybe because it was her husband who cost us those jobs! then slithered out of town with piles of money! !how biased are you!?

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    • Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

      I’d like to better understand what you posted.  Jow do you figure GWB “slithered out of town with piles of money”?  what money did he personally take while he was president that you are referring to?

      WHy do you think TL is “biased”?  Because she feels differently than you do?  If not, then what is it that is bias?

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      • Generic Image mayr malool says

        billions were “misplaced” at the beginning of the Iraq war, no doubt ending up in politicians hands. And the article is clearly written to make Laura Bush seem sweet and kind and patriotic (for  only visiting American parks). funny how we can read the same article and see very different points being made! supporters of Bush will never admit his utter failure as president! and haters of Obama will never admit he does anything right! we are a nation divided.

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      • Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

        We are a nation divided.    I dont think that is necessairily as bad as many do.  We are questionining, we are debating, and we aren’t sheep.  But then again, I’m a liberterian at heart, I believe in the right of the individual to think as such.

        Do you have  asource or a link on this billions issue you speak of–because I’m aboslutely not clear on what you are referring to.  Where did you get this information from?  What billions were misplaced?  where was it right beforeit disappeared? when did it disappear? 

        Oh by the way–you definitely segued away from Laura Bush’s vacation choices to other topics (her husband).  That happens a lot in these threads, and goodness knows I have a habit of mentally meandering into new paths too….

        But back to LB:  If I’m reading correctly you are you down on Laura Bush as an individual taking vacations in national parks?  Or is it just anything Bush in general that you down on? 

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      • Generic Image mayr malool says

        I don’t have anything against LB. I was doing research on “money spent by first ladies on vacations” when I got pulled in to this, defending MO. and yes, i may have mentally meandered, ( love your phrasing!) I’ll try to find the link to the “missing money” from Bush/Cheney /Iraq war topic, and post it later. as for being divided, debating & questioning is fine, but being so divided as we are now is chipping away at what made this country so great. UNITY! 

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        4ever, this country has almost always been divided politically – at least in my lifetime.  I saw a great divide when President Bush was in office.  Definitely one when President Clinton was there, too.  Unity?  It’s not going to happen.

        We can call this division whatever we think makes us feel better about it, but all the questioning and debating is not such a bad thing for our country.

        Less than a month from now, we will get to see what a majority of the American people really think.

        TL ♥

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      • Generic Image mayr malool says

        I agree we have been divided for many many years, and it’s doubtful we will ever be “United” states again. less than a month from now all we will have is some new people in Washington, and they too will be corrupted by the lobbyists and money and power. nothing will change, except if the Rep. gain control, the economy will get even worse. ‘I’m really over this particular debate, as for the link to Bush/Cheney missing money from Iraq, just google it! there’s lots of info there.

        As I’ve said before, those who hate Obama will continue to hate him, and those who supported Bush will never admit he failed us completely. We are divided and falling, and I see no way out! (I’m having a bad week, can you tell?) bye-bye!

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      • Olga Olga says

        Hi,

        Sorry you’ve had a bad week. Hope it gets better. I think you should add: and those who hate Bush will continue to hate him and those who love Obama will continue to do so as well. IMO, THAT is the problem. Not that we disagree–THANK GOD we live in a nation where we can–but rather that we have now moved to personally attacking each other whenever we disagree (I’ve been called racist for not liking MO’s shorts outfit). (and I believe that the powers that be fuel that attack when they call segments of our society names, e.g. ‘fat cats’, or imply that having money is somehow evil).

        IMO, united does not equal ‘agree with’–united=agree is groupthink. Very dangerous.

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      • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

        Sorry you’re having a bad week!  I’ll try not to make it worse…

        I believe we are still a very strong ‘United’ States.  Disliking policies and discussing them is not division, it’s healthy debate.  If we all thought the same way, we’d be more of a cult than a country.

        You are right that not much will probably change with this election, but some of us have our hopes.  Especially since I totally disagree that Republicans would make the economy get even worse.

        I supported President Bush, at least most of the time.  He, too, had policies I disagreed with, although I don’t believe he failed us completely.  Doesn’t make me love him (although, for the most part, I did) any more than disagreeing with President Obama’s policies makes me hate him.  I don’t.

        Hope your week gets better!

        TL ♥♥♥

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    • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

      Not biased, really.  I disliked some of President Bush’s policies but I happen to dislike many, many more of President Obama’s.

      I, like Dallas Lady, would like to understand what you are referring to about the piles of money.

      I do believe, in researching this post, that Mrs. Bush is, indeed, sweet and kind and patriotic.  This post was researched in response to Mrs. Obama’s vacation in Spain, which is an entirely different thread.

      It is true, though, that at the time Mrs. Bush took her American vacations with her girlfriends, we were not a nation with around a 10% Unemployment rate; higher, if you count those who no longer collect unemployment and still cannot find a job.

      TL ♥

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