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8 ways not to act old at work

Pamela Redmond Satran is a former editor for Glamour magazine and the author of How Not to Act Old: 185 Ways to Pass for Phat, Sick, Hot, Dope, Awesome, or at Least Not Totally Lame. Her tips about staying relevant in the workplace range from funny to practical to profound.
My book is about retaining cultural relevance without being an embarrassing trend slave. This is as important in the workplace as anywhere else. We need to be conscious of how younger people perceive us and seem vital, connected, and conscious - not terminally out of it!

Here are some tips for not acting old at work:
  1. If you're still dialing your cell phone with your index finger, stop. Start using your thumbs.

  2. Don't begin your work emails with a conventional salutation, complete with punctuation.

  3. With the possible exception of a formal memo for your boss, don't write emails more than three sentences long. Young or old, everyone is too busy to read long emails!

  4. If you must use voicemail, keep it short.

  5. When possible, use texts instead. Younger people respond to text messages where they may not to voicemail.

  6. Drop dated vocabulary.
    It's okay to say to a younger coworker, "I know you think Bruce Springsteen is crusty, but I love him." Don't say, "The Springsteen concert was so awesome. I'm going to send you a mixed tape." Mixed tapes are obsolete, and mentioning them will only make the other person snicker at you. You don't want to be in that position.

  7. Tone it down.
    Women our age often feel we need to assert their own experience out of insecurity, and tell stories about all the important things we did or give advice about what we did back in 1989 and how we did it. But that doesn't make us look better; in fact, it often backfires. Our generation tends to have a more confrontational, negative work style than the younger generation. I think it's our responsibility to change and learn the younger generation's work style, which tends to be more low-key, soft-sell, complimentary, and non-confrontational.

  8. Let go of cynicism.
    Being positive and optimistic are young traits no matter what generation you're from, but I also think these things are particularly valued by this generation of young people. Young women today didn't face the exact same workplace challenges we did, and I think that informs the difference in our attitudes. Younger people tend to feel that the universe will give back what they put out there. I think there's something to that. It's more positive and less critical, which makes for a nicer life.

Share your own tip on how not to "work old." Ten members who post a tip by October 16 will be selected at random to receive a FREE COPY of Pamela's book, How Not to Act Old. Book recipients will be notified via email on October 17.

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rosalia said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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This is actually helpful. Funny, and helpful!

Dallas Lady said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Do not wear a watch.  Young people keep up with time using their cell phones.

Nettie said to Dallas Lady
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I sometimes leave my watch at home......Have a clock on my phone and computer at work. 

Watches look nice and can match an outfit.....if that is what one wants.

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crystalli said to Dallas Lady
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Do they?  That's great.  Many older people still like their watches.  That's great, too.

Tamara said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I usually try to avoid as many people at work as possible. This has helped me in more ways than you can imagine...

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rosalia said to Tamara
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To Tamara: this is true wisdom!

SatorisWings said to rosalia
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There's nothing wrong with acting old.

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jwelkin said to SatorisWings
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Dear SatorisWings and friends,

Hear hear! The implicit assumption of this piece is that "old" = "worthless, out of touch, an object of derision to the almighty and all-inportant young".

"Acting old" to me is acting mature - and that's the reason the younger workers come to me for advice, for help, for mentoring.

My emails will always look like short letters. Just because others have thrown out salutations and punctuation doesn't mean I have to toss out what makes communication gracious, civilized and clear.

Now no one likes a grump, someone stuck elsewhere and in another time, the stereotypical grumpy old man or lady. There is a middle space between that and the equally pitiable 60-pretending-to-be-30.

And hey - I'm waaaay faster with fingers on text than with thumbs, and I ain't changing! ;-)

Yours,

Mrs. Welch

 

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saphire said to jwelkin
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I agree totally.  I like where I am in life and I love who I am.  I taught Business English and Business Communications for over 10 years.  I will also continue my ways. It is more professional to use proper English and to show respect... Professionalism seems to be a fading art..

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Nettie said to jwelkin
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I don't consider myself as 'old'.....What is age really....only numbers!

I went back to earn a college degree at 61 and because of that got a top notch job in another dept. when mine was phased out. - Was retired in 2007 and decided I needed to work. - ....now at a very young 72 I am working part time; every day and loving it.  My younger co-workers treat me as an equal.....no one talks about age. - Yes, I get my hair styled once a month and my nails receive a "French" manicure regularly.

Remember that "AGE" is only a word.  What really matters is how one feels; how one can live their life well and get along with others of varying ages.  We are all in this together - It is all about Atitude.

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Jean T said to jwelkin
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I think there is a difference between "old" and "mature".  Many young people are quite mature, and many people with many years are "old" rather than mature.  I do not have to listen to the most bizarre music to "not be old" but I can avoid making comments that show how old I am.  As in "When I was your age."

crystalli said to jwelkin
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Again, I'm squarely in your camp.  Everything you said is totally reasonable.  There is some good advice in the book, such as "Be more soft-sell and low key" or "Let go of cynicism," but other advice  is derogatory to older people, such as "Drop dated vocabulary, text with yor index finger."   Why don't we all scroll down to "dinkydoo"  who proposes "Accept me as I am, and I will accept you as you are."  Isn't this the basis of a civilized society?

eliza said to jwelkin
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Thank you for your response.  I feel that attitude of boomers changing so we "don't appear old" is not as useful as the author may believe.  What an insult to many younger people who are learning to be respectful and coexist with all people regardless of age, race, religion, etc. My grandsons are wonderful examples.

idosew said to jwelkin
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I totally agree! I think age gives at least some wisdom. I don't want to be one of them. It almost sounds like favoring the dumbing down of America that is making us loose in the world. Somehow I don't think this is progress when we hide things we have learned. Does this mean this generation is expected to do everything without teachings from older history knowing folks? Does history repeat if you don't know it?

 

tinkerbelle04 said to Tamara
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This is very good advice!

Lparker said to Tamara
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Hilarious! I love it! This is what I do too:)

Kristen W said to Tamara
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I think that at least one really good laugh each day is very healthy- thank you for one of the best today.  

tinkerbelle04 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Listen to the younger person---just be a good listener and take your cues from the results.

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VintageIsVogue said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Great tips!  Also, iPhones rule - so ask about cool apps or share music and ringtones, too.  And yes, texting rules...

Also, be sure to engage with co-workers via LinkedIn, twitter and facebook - you pick which platform works best.  These platforms serve as the new intranet for internal communications, exchanges, etc. that can be shared.

Of course, email is still best for internal communcations and documentation, but don't expect immediate responses if one is needed.

Beeg said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Well, I have 5 grandchildren and that helps keep me young. I also keep up my hair an wear makeup..accodingly!  I am just a happier person in general I recently went through an illness that I am dealing with an made me realise NOT TO SWEAT the small stuff!  So I take everyday and make the most an not worry about do I look old,act old, I am just happy to be here an up an runnin!! Enjoy life,family an friends an ya can't go wrong!!

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Diana M. said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Keep your tech and social media skils updated.  

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LucyBHoffman said to Diana M.
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Absolutely.  Never say, "I don't do FaceBook."  Figure out and watch youtube.  Upload something.  Know the names of the new phones - Curve, Tour, etc.  Learn to text.  Its aggravating, but quick. 

Nettie said to Diana M.
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Last year I got a new Blackberry Storm; didn't know the 1st thing about 'smart phones'; I learned quickly at a "Young 72!"  Even my grown kids had older phones.

hummerfriend said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Exercise, stay slim, go to alternative doctors, try not to take too many prescription drugs, go to a chiropractor before you have back surgery, go for short hikes in the forest nearest you, renew your love life with your current partner and if you can't it may be time to invest heavily in yourself and new interests, keep up to date on current events, keep up to date on networking websites, don't wear too much makeup, wear jeans and running shoes, don't wear polyester, don't wear floral print tops, relax and smell the flowers.

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Rita@Goldivas said to hummerfriend
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running shoes are ugly, and should only be worn when running.

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hummerfriend said to Rita@Goldivas
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yes but they keep your feet young and allow you to move faster than any other shoes. I am running all day long monday thru friday. If I were wearing any other kind of shoe I would be in pain. I don't particularly care how pretty something is. I think Katie Couric, and Oprah for this matter, has done a grave disservice to women by promoting the stiletto heels, they cripple women. Pretty is relative anyway. I think I look alot cooler in my sneakers than I would in styled shoes! lol.

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Angel Grace said to hummerfriend
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From reports on Oprah her feet are in terrible condition.  She has discussed this and knows that she has horrible pain and can't stand in the heels for a long period of time.  She walks onto her show and sits.  Notice to see if she is standing for long periods of time.  I love heels but I am being more conservative because I know my comfort zone and I try not to overdue that.  May you all have pain free feet and still be a beautiful person.

idosew said to hummerfriend
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For this one I am a BIG me too!! For me this has nothing to do with age but is how I have always been. I have never worn heels unless they are sandals and it is a must thing for a short time. They suck!!!

Sam88 said to Rita@Goldivas
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I disagree! Running shoes (sneakers) look appropriate w/jeans.

Christa said to hummerfriend
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Find that balance between comfort and style that the smarter young people have found.

RockinRobin said to hummerfriend
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Running shoes are for running only--all the rest IS GOOD for me.  I love soft leather ankle boots and wild socks or tights for winter wear with jeans.  

hummerfriend said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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and don't wear strong perfumes.

Christa said to hummerfriend
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strong perfumes, heavy make-up, hair spray and stilettos - gone the way of the dinosaur, thank God.

MaryAnne said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Don't wander through the office lamenting the days of the IBM Selectric.

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NatalieTM said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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These insights are wonderful.

Dana Carvery's Grumpy Old Man did wonders for our generation's self awareness, as in, let's not fall into THOSE old patterns! We need to know when to step back and see that wisdom is most effectively communicated through quiet example, not overt horn blowing.

kanmko said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I noticed #7 specifically. I work on a college newspaper, and I would have to say that the environment is much more confrontational and twitterish than I was used to, so I toned it down, for the very reasons that the author mentioned. Also because I wanted to focus on my work. When I do choose to open up, honestly, it kind of is a hit or miss type of thing. I'm learning that free speech minded news geeks (I guess that means me too) can be just as sensitive as anyone else to difference.

It's good when I can relate with someone about something that we have in common. It's best to listen and hear what they have to say, for the most part. But I've also found that they tend to look on their teachers who don't say anything as afraid of losing their jobs

On the personal side, I got a deferred comment (they blamed it on someone else in the room) about some jasmine hand lotion that I had that one person said smelled like a baby. Later on, I heard that one of their friends was wearing "something that smelled real good." So, I find that if I'm not too sensitive, that I can find out current info.

But I'm still learning how to share my own thoughts outside of the written page. They tend to like the quick, witty response kind of banter. I'm just not in that kind of mind set at this point. Overall, conversation and blending in takes a bit more savvy. For the good and bad, I do feel that I am presently learning to be more savvy overall.

There's also something to be said for what our presence brings. And in a lot of ways, I see myself as being a bit corny, an encouragement, and kind of a mediator. But, I wouldn't go overboard with any self praise or dissapproval, because these relationships can be so moment to moment. For the most part, I look to keep a peaceful mindset and give that off, no matter what is going on.

PamK said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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This is great stuff. . . .I am also a substitute teacher and I really try to pay attention and keep up with the latest techie stuff.  I ask my young adult kids how to relate to children in middle and high school. . . things definitely changed just in the past 5 years!!

Carole Carson said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Stay physicall fit and maintain a healthy weight.  Nothing ages a person more than carrying around surplus pounds.

 

Carole Carson, coach for the AARP Fat 2 Fit online community and author of From Fat to Fit: Turn Yourself into a Weapon of Mass Reduction

Sophie said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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You know I hate to be cynical, but it doesn't really matter what I do or how I do it, I find that once you're a certain age and a woman, you're fairly invisible.  I find that younger colleagues and male colleagues my own age and older routinely tune me out and treat me as though I'm not there.  So, the upside is, I don't have to spend a lot of time fitting in with the younger crowd because when you're invisible, you can do what you please, how you please, as long as the work gets done.

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Lynnette said to Sophie
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GOOD ONE!   I was offended and hurt at first that this was happening to me.  Glad to hear is not just me, but you are right, if they chose to tune you out... do what you want!!!!

invisable said to Sophie
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I'm so relieved to see that someone shares my feelings about this issue. After all is said and done, it's a job, not a social gathering. The boss knows who gets the job done and doesn't care if they "fit in" or not. In the workplace, we are our own best friends so let's just be true to our selves, our work ethic and the mission of our jobs. The satisfaction we get from a job well done is worth so much more than "fitting in' with the younger co-workers.  I don't purposely avoid them but simply find the accomplishment of my work so much more fulfilling.

 

BostonRosieJ said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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In addition to the drop dated vocabulary, it is also equally bad to use some of the slang words/phrases that the younger set uses, even though some of it is really amusing. Stick to age appropriate language without "dating" yourself too much! 

sun city dancer said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Watch your posture and walk - it's a picture of your attitude.  Forward leaning posture and a shuffle in your step says old or older.  Stand and walk with good posture and an eager step and you will be viewed as being more vibrant, anticipatng the future instead of living in your past.

Maggie De Vore said to sun city dancer
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Hooray for you!!  Found this out when my daughter told me to stand up straigt as I walked -- I was stooping and shuffling (78 no excuse).  I thought I walked leaning forward to protect a bad back -- not so -- when I stood upright I didn't have any pain.  It had become a bad habit.  Sooooo,  walking tall, picking up my feet and now look at least 20 - well, 10 years younger!!.  Caught myself in a shop window and was very pleasantly surprised at what this has done for me!!.  Mentally I am anticipating the future, am vibrant and active -- but I did look very over-the-hill till I straightened up. 

dinkydoo said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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People you work with know how old you are numerically.  Don't try to act young,if it  is not your normal way of acting. Nothing ages you more than going totally out of chartacter to act out of your natural comfort zone.  Be comfortable in your own skin and act like it. I know of 30 year olds  and younger that have a 80 year old mind and act like it. I know 80 year olds that have a 30 year old mind and act like. It's just natural for them and to act any other way would just not be right. 

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dinkydoo said to dinkydoo
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Most important of all,I really "DON'T" care how young people percieve me any more than the young people care about how I percieve them.  Accept me as I am and I will accept you as you are. We are all unique and we ALL can learn something from whomever we meet.

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crystalli said to dinkydoo
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dinkydoo, you have pushed all the verbiage aside and wrapped it up very nicely.  "Accept me as I am..."

Why haven't we taught this to our young?  When a grandchild (or their parent) says to us "No one says that anymore" do we say "That's what we said when I was young, and it's the first word I think of, but it means the same thing."  If we just look away then we're not teaching them "Accept me as I am."

TrophyWife said to dinkydoo
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I  have to agree with your sentiments. In discussing this article with my 30ish something aged kids, they say that all those above mentioned "tips" just make the mature woman's attempts to fit in  appear "desperate" and 'pathetic" Ouch....but the truth can sometimes hurt.

idosew said to dinkydoo
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I know these too.

VictoriaPrc8 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Hangout with some active and inquisitive preteens.  They like schooling the generation that is made up of their grandparents.  They feel needed and they like learning about being an adult.

SatorisWings said to VictoriaPrc8
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In other words conform to others - don't be yourself, is what a lot of you are saying?  Good lord, apparently we haven't learned to be ourselves yet.  No wonder everyone needs to go to the doctor all the time.  Being untrue to one is damaging to the body and the soul.  BE YOURSELF.  If you don't know who that is, it's time to find out.

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gizmogarey said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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When did the use of proper grammar and the inclusion of thoughtful, colorful adjectives become inappropriate for ageless communication? What my elders thought were the "cat's pajamas" became objects I referred to as "far out" and "groovy"; today, my daughter, grandchild, peers and co-workers opine that a good thing is "way cool." Genetically incapable of writing or speaking monosyllabic remarks, I delight in painting word pictures which enable my reader/listener to fully experience my communication. Yes, respect the constraints of time, but don't "dumb down" what you have to say. If anything, make your words so clear that you'll have no need for those stupid little emoticons; Speak as you wish to be spoken to.

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magpay said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Nobody said anything about pantyhose: To wear pantyhose or not to wear pantyhose.

Marikraut said to magpay
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Ok...if your legs are still good, get a good self-tanner on them if you have to wear a skirt or dress.  If they're not, wear a mid-calf skirt or dress but still put the self-tanner on.  You don't have to spend a lot of money on self-tanner...Jergens has good ones and so does L'Oreal.  They're not the "orange" color anymore!  If you're wearing sandles, get a pedicure or do a good one on yourself...you must polish your toenails and scrub the caluses off!  Good luck!

pnutt said to Marikraut
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Self-tanners, that's your solution for going bare-legged?  What about those of us who are women of color?  What about the African American women?  What solution do you have for us?

hummerfriend said to pnutt
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your legs are gorgeous already, how lucky is that?

hummerfriend said to pnutt
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your legs are gorgeous already, how lucky is that?

tinkonthebrink said to magpay
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Pantyhose???? Seriously? Yuck.

If you're determined to wear something like that, at least make it a statement and wear stockings and a sexy garter belt. But pantyhose? Ewwww.

idosew said to magpay
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I think of them as leg makeup. If you have something to hide they help. They also keep lumpy legs smooth. They keep shoes from hurting your feet as much. Socks do that too. If they have tummy control and you need it they help there too. Sort of like spanx. If your legs hurt they help circulation. Nothing is all bad or all good. I can't imagine judging somebody because you do or do not like what they are wearing. That is very shallow.

mhbsun said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I've stopped adding to a convesation with something I did and refeig to the year I did it. Some of the people I work with weren't even born or just a little kid when I was in high school and college.

cmounsey said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Really listen to younger co-workers. When they suggest an idea, don't immediately shoot it down based on your experience in the past about the same idea. Ask nicely why they think an idea will work. They might be right!

tinkonthebrink said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Be curious, be fearless, learn new things. No matter what your age, you do not already know everything you need to know. Thirteen year olds get that. A lot of fifty-somethings don't.

Brightwood said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Be yourself. Be confident in your own skin and don't try to be something your not. I have no trouble interacting with younger people at work.

KateG said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I went back to school at age 49, earned a 4.0 GPA and received a diploma in computer programming.  Age is just a number. 

Gina Girl said to KateG
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Yay!  I graduated at 50 years old with a 4.0 PGA also and I am very happy with myself and grateful to have met so many fun young students along the way!!  Congrats to you!

ember39 said to KateG
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Thanks for the inspiration.  I am thinking about going back to school at 50 and have been a little hesitant to investigate it.

Maryalice said to ember39
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I changed careers from nursing to teaching special education at 50.  It was a year long program at U. of Michigan where I earned a teaching certificate and Masters in education.  I am now in my tenth year of teaching.  While I love working with my population of students (emotionally impaired), it is other aspects of public education that frustrate me.  But enough about me...if you want to head back to school, do so.  It is a great experience.  I still toss around going on for a doctorate.

Redward said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Look good!  Don't be afraid to wear those cool dark denim jeans, heels and that leather jacket.  Laugh, enjoy life . . . the young chicks will always flock to you to share their stuff and hear your stories.  Lastly,  go out with 'em to happy hour . . . you don't have to stay but a few hours.  Lighten up 50!!!!!

Christa said to Redward
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You know what the saddest thing is?  Those very slim, toned, brittle older women.  Usually tanned.  Lots of make-up, hair styled and sprayed.  Stiletto heels, very short skirts.  They think they look great, but they really look so pathetic.  The skirt is always too short, the bathing suit too brief, the hair and make-up a smidge out of date.  Frozen in time somewhere between 1975 and 1985.  Getting stuck as you were when you were young is very aging.

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Moongirl007 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Am I the only person who dislikes the cover of this book? Is the message "wear really uncomfortable underwear and you'll remain a dynamic member of your work team"???

And some of the advice seems a little silly. I am going to have a better working relationship with my younger co-workers by dialing my cell phone with my index finger or actually using punctuation in my e-mails?

I agree with others who posted here: Be yourself. Keep up on technology and new things going on in your field of choice because it will make you better at your job, NOT because your younger co-workers are going to invite you out for a drink with the gang after work. They won't, even if you text. And I bet you didn't hang with your older co-workers when you were young, either.

And yes, keep fit and maintain a healthy weight... because it's good for you.

 

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magdalene said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Avoid the water cooler gossip habit, that's old school. I can't tell you how I cringe when my boss comes into my cube to complain about everyone else in the building!

scissorchick55 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I am 54 and work with some younger women,  my 23 yr old coworker and I were talking about this the other day, I told her that whenever I start talking about my hot flashes or aches and pains to  say the word "stop" , to me, I don't want to  sound old and I realized that I was talking more and more about my ailments, so we came up with this plan to curb that, hopefully!:)

Cyndysh said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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If possible, give up reading glasses for contcts.

I remember hearing a quote that goes something like this...If you want to look younger, surround yourself with people older, if you want to act younger, surround your self with people younger.

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Pamela, I need your book, I am not kidding. the 8 tips presented here will not do it for me. I work in a professional school of psychology (and yes, it is as fun as it sounds) with several women around my age ('grandma age" as my 7 year old granddaughter likes to say). I can't stand it when some staff members continually remind everyone of their age-that only serves to remind everyone of my age as well! These are the same ones that constantly send around those emails with quizzes and whatever for the older set: "remember when bread was 27 cents a loaf?" Jeez, give me a break! Lets just wear a tee shirt that says, "yep, I'm old, retire me and replace me with a kid that will work for less". So, long story short (too late! lol) my tip is: Stop reminding everyone that you are older than they are, believe me, they know it already.

Thanks for the great info, Pamela-I want more!! Nancy Rocha, Program Assistant, California School of Forensic Studies-Alliant International University-Fresno, CA 559-253-2275, nrocha@alliant.edu

Mountain Gal said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Letting go of cynicism will erase 10 years of lines off your face.  That's reason enough to do it!  Our generation used to say " ____ happens!'   I say, so what?  Bring it on.  If we live life fully, there will be an abundance of joy and of losses, some very hard.  Each day I ask to walk in balance with others and this earth, to see beauty where it is and could be, to love with all my heart and my eyes open, and to do some good along the way. This keeps me going.

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perlesrose said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Stop using your age as an excuse for anything, i.e., ‘I’m having a senior moment’, when you forget and/or don’t remember how to do something.

Dress for the job not necessarily for your age.  Take a good look at your co-workers from the boss on down and dress accordingly.  In many of today’s casual workplaces, slacks, khakis, and jeans are the norm.  Note to women: If you wore the fad the first time around, it just won’t work the second time around. However good your legs are, a mini just looks foolish on a woman of a certain age.

Don’t look like a clown.  No amount of make-up will make you look twenty-something again, and hair sprayed within an inch of its life is just as aging.

 

Koop said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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9.  Don't be a know-it-all

Listen to them and don't feel you need to share your experiences all the time - sometimes they have wisdom to share.

Towanda said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Clothes, accessories, shoes and hairstyles need to be kept current with styles - although they also need to be appropriate to our 50+ year old bodies!

elaine lively said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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i think a good way is to ask their opinion on work related issues, and compliment new ideas and feedback.

MagentaRose said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I was gonna say "don't mother people" and then I remembered a coworker I once had that did exactly that. EVERYBODY loved her, beehive and all. I think we just need to be ourselves while being good coworkers and good people: be flexible, helpful, no heavy handed agendas at work, carry your weight, see everybody's idiosincracies-yours as well- with a light and kind heart, give others their due and show your interest in their lives.

NinaPWA said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Learn how to do Facebook!  And MySpace, if you like music.

 

I really like your tips, above.  ULP....acouple of things I must change!

Nettie said to NinaPWA
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One of my daughters got me on FB to keep up with my nieces and nephews......I'm hooked and am having the time of my life!

Nettie said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Be a 'can do' person.

Try a new duty.....never created a spread sheet?  Give it a try.

Step in and up to the plate if a volunteer is needed.

Get off your chair and offer to be of assistance.

Think 'young'!

tparker said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Don't try and dress young, this makes the younger generation laugh and roll there eyes, they also make us look like we are trying to hard. Classic "business casual" never goes out of style and is ageless!

chesharicat said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Get a younger lover.  That most certainly keeps one youthful and appreciated for who you are, experiences and all.  Just don't get him or her at work. 

Seriously though, we've spent our lifetimes trying to be taken legitimately as equals in the workplace and now we are being told to dumb ourselves down in order to fit in?  I for one will not back down from my hard earned experiences.  Be who you are.  Let your work speak for itself.  If you dial your cell phone with your index finger and someone notices, so what?  If Ms. Satram thinks young people are less cynical than someone 50 or older, please, please, please think again.  They have far more to be cynical about than we ever did or will.

[To Moongirl007: I had the same reaction to the cover.  I had to wonder about the wisdom of wearing butt floss versus comfortable underwear at work.  Perhaps I missed something or am in the wrong job.]

invisable said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Let your actions do the talking and just do the job to the best of your ability. It speaks volumes and some of those younger people will respect your knowledge and may want to learn from you.

We were all young once upon a time and had the help of our elders to get to where we are now. Now it's our turn to pay it forward and give the young people the benefit of any assistance they may request of us. Just wait for the questions and when they come, be as brief and clear as possible. By all means, don't Mom them. That's someone elses job.

Jean T said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I have a few - probably covered in the book. 

1.Don't be a "know it alll"  It didn't work when you were young, it won't work now. 

2. Keep your hair looking natural - that may mean colored properly, gray if beautiful and goes with your skin tone, nicely shaped in a modern style.  Don't do the spikes, but don't have the full perm this is the way I always wore it effect.  softer is better.

3.Believe that younger people have good ideas.  You can't fake this.  If you pretend to listen with the intent of doing things 'the way we've always done them' you will be blasted.

4. Don't assume that everything that comes out of a younger person's mouth is the best thing yet.  Differentiate between openness and good judgment. 

dleatx said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Don't indulge in "organ recitals" with people in your office.  NO one, any age, wants to hear about your health problems.

Christa said to dleatx
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...and don't talk about your medications or your hot flashes.

inkfeather said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Don't use being old as an excuse not to do things - be honest instead.    It's okay to be tired or not into something; it's okay to forget things now an then,  but using age as an excuse only gives others a reason to push you into a catagory of Depends and Ensure.

BTW - great insight with what I have read so far.  I worked in an environment where most of the young adults could have been my grandchildren and the generational differences AMAZED me.

 

Inky

 

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Everyone so far has mentioned maintaining a healthy weight,but it's also important to maintain fitness, strength and flexibility.  These are important not only to your health and well being, but to enable you to keep up with younger people. Just being able to get something from the bottom drawer makes such a difference.

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SusieQ said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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There are a few points. The younger generation does not wear a lot of makeup. It may seem trivial but they don't walk around with black eyes from too much eye makeup.  Don't walk around like your in pain. A person should dress simply. Don't complain about sweating because your premenopausal.

CindyLee said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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A tip on how not to 'work old' is to wear stylish not 'granny' footwear as women always notice shoes!

jhl&f said to CindyLee
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AMEN!  My daughters and their friends notice shoes on everybody.  We were shopping last weekend and one of them said "I will never let you wear anything like that, Mom."  More of us need to agitate for sensible shoes that either don't look like hiking boots or worse - orthopedic Mary Janes (where did that come from, anyway?)

Sarah729 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Don't ever let anyone know you are afraid of change. Change will happen anyway so you may as well grin and bear it or you will get labeled.  She's afraid of change and you don't want that label

Fran Young said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I think how you carry yourself says a lot about your attitude, and thus, your age.  Refusing to huff or puff when you rise/sit/squat/climb, standing tall and confident, smiling a lot, exercising willingly and naturally, and encouraging your colleagues, no matter what their age, help to make anyone a lively person, a spirit without age-associated constraints.

I have friends who are in their twenties and seem old, frail, set in their ways, boring to be around.  And, I have friends in their 80s who spring with life, curiousity, and creativity.  Keeping an open mind, asking questions and allowing others to teach you, and living your best life both mentally and physically, make anyone absolutely ageless, wrinkles be damned!

IrishBlake said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I think we "sage" workers also need to  lighten up..be more open to learning new ways, after all, fresh eyes can teach us a lot if we take the time to listen..and not be so territorial of our old way of doing, being and responding.  These "kids" in the workplace are pretty sharp!

crystalli said to IrishBlake
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I have no quarrel with these "inner attitudes."  What I take exception to are the lesser, outward behaviors such as wearing a watch, how you text (if at all), and the vocabulary older people use.  And I don't want to hear "nobody says that anymore" because I just said it, and so did you, and our 65 year old friend, too.  We're somebodies, and we count.  Let's not forget the way we respond to people, either.  If someone states what we think is obvious, don't say quietly "absolutely" or "so true."  To really be hip, you'll want to say "Well, DUHHH!!

IrishBlake said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I think we "sage" workers also need to  lighten up..be more open to learning new ways, after all, fresh eyes can teach us a lot if we take the time to listen..and not be so territorial of our old way of doing, being and responding.  These "kids" in the workplace are pretty sharp!

Sam88 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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What I've noticed most in the workplace is that the younger generation has better memories, can multi-task better, have LOTS more energy, can work longer hours, get things done more quickly, do their work more cheerfully because they treat it as "just a job."  But they don't seem to have the compassion & patience we older workers have. It's hard keeping up with them, but we creat a balance to the workplace.

Nerica said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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make sure your public 411 relfects today's currency; your URL, your avatar name, your skype name,etc

jhl&f said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Learn how to text.  It's not hard.  Short texts back and forth while in the elevator or when you're eating a quick sandwich in the lunchroom are a far better way to stay in touch than a public conversation -  I found out how "cool" my texting is when my daughter, who is at school 1300 miles away, was visiting home and mentioned how her sorority sisters were so impressed that Hanna's mom texts instead of calls.  Apparently their mothers are intimidated by new technology. Poor things.

runaway said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I AM OLD!  In comparison to a 20 something at 55 I think I am viewed as getting pretty dinosaurish!  And I am proud of it!  I am confident of my email style, proper splelling and punctuation etc., no shortcuts for me.  I respect the other person enough to keep to the point, they are busy, I am busy.  Dialing the phone...there is no such thing as dialing...where are YOU getting this?  I worked hard to get  where I am at 55, I am confident, helpful, considerate and hope the young people take on the world as they are my dream for a better future.  I am proud to be 55 and a very vital part of the workforce, wearing my comfortable shoes and layered clothing to accommodate my sticking temperature gauge!

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jwelkin said to runaway
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Brava! Bravissima!

Lynnette said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I can relate to #3.  Since people do not listen anyway, i write it out and trust they can come back to it and re-read it when things are not working out and they just read the first 3 sentences.  I work in export and if something can go wrong, it will, so 3 sentences does not cut it for me.  I give instructions but you are right people do not read it nor do they listen and when crap hits the fan, then they ask... why didn't you tell me? duhhhh!

wwxda said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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8 ouches later I appreciate this.  Makes me sad though- I had no idea that I would have to learn a whole new way of being again- it's a lot like being a teenager, which I loathed.  I'd say moe, but then I would be in excess of 3 lines!

WWXDA

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8 ouches later I appreciate this.  Makes me sad though- I had no idea that I would have to learn a whole new way of being again- it's a lot like being a teenager, which I loathed.  I'd say moe, but then I would be in excess of 3 lines!

WWXDA

Oldbrain said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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You cannot "retain cultural relevance without being an embarrassing trend slave" by adopting trendy behaviors and downplaying your experience. It is this article's kind of advice that produces old bags who are bumbling and confusing.  Now that is embarrassing. Consider if Katherine Hepburn were a work colleague. No one would give two hoots about how she dialed her phone!

Be true to yourself! Share your experience with other generations because keeping it at bay is a means of devaluing yourself, and makes you a conduit of history repeating mistakes. If you are present with others, the younger generation will value you no matter how long your voicemails are, and will be interested in any mix tapes you are compelled to share.

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crystalli said to Oldbrain
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This is one of the best responses on this thread.  I realize the thread is a bit old, but I saw a notice about a new response and reread yours.  I hope you see this, Oldbrain.  You pack a lot of power into a couple of short paragraphs.

Audrey B said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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What! I refuse to give up punctuation and good grammar. I am NOT ashamed of my education or the fact that I can write more than 3 consecutive sentences. Yet, I do not like texting. I came from the typewriter age. I figure let the kids do their thing and it's ok as long as I can do my thing. Remember when our generation use to say that> "Do your own thing?" 

We use to laugh at the little old ladies with the "blue" hair and who carried cloth handkerchiefs, and had some manners. Guess what? They were pretty smart and they had a rather orderly world. The only thing I thought was strange was that they preferred a radio to a television and a broom over a vacuum cleaner. However, they got the job done!

The young ones will realize that our ways are what they are. I do recall with a laugh my little old lady aunts who loved our rock and roll when my parents thought it was horrible.  It wasn't that my aunts were trying to be modern at the time, it was a matter of preference.

I think some new devices are good, like what I'm typing on now! I remarked to my expectant daughter that the items they have for babies are quite nice and wished we had had some of those conveniences. My mother was enthralled with disposables & I'm enthralled that a young woman can go out to work & yet give her baby the breast milk she can pump out & store while she's out. My daughter will use cloth diapers sometimes & sometimes not. She may play Baby Einstein, or she may not.... the young people will make their choices. If these young people can raise up good kids & go to work make their ends meet like we did, we don't worry about watches vs. cell phones or even if they make more money than we did.

RockinRobin said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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All great advice, Pamela.

jlhunt1953 said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Try to have a smile on your face as much as possible.  A smile always makes you appear more alive and vibrant. Your voice is even more uplifting when you have a smile on your face.   Walking around with a sour face makes you appear unapproachable and crabby.

Gramma said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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I have a feeling that some of this is "tongue in cheek"....oops showing my age....it is amazing how many little sayings like that , get me a blank look from my adult children.....I don't know if they read less books, or if it is just changes in vocabulary that occur with every generation......I like what you are saying , though.  I personally love "growing" older.  I love to also "keep on top of things"...it has nothing to do with children respecting older people , or not.  It's is about me just liking to keep up with the world with the rest of the time I have left.  Our old sayings and behaviors make up whom we are, but why not add to that , learning new things...I have become kinder, gentler, less judgemental as I have been aging, anyway...I don't judge the  youth and , those that know me, don't judge me.  I get along wonderfully with younger women (and men).  They love to hear about my life, as much as they love to teach me things about theirs.  Life is wonderful, if you allow it to be..=]

boxorocks said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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No, 1989 you are way off. signed, 1974

Sandra Thériault said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Gawd I hate this kind of advice! Styles, trends, and so on...tips on how to be  successful or happy...it's all a lot of b.s. I'm always amazed at how many people (male or female) actually follow such insipid advice. This is a world of followers...no wonder we feel victimized by life...we not only allow it, we actually encourage it! Be yourself for goodness sake!

Alicia said to Sandra Thériault
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I have always been myself, and don't follow anyone's rules, unless i agree with them....supposedly, there is an unwritten rule that women past 40 or so, should cut their hair.

 

I am 63 and my hair is down to my waist, because I like it like that.  it is thick and naturally curly.  If someone is watching how I dial my cell phone.......they don't have much to do.  Perhaps I will make a rule tht you should dial with your tongue....maybe that would be trendy.  ick.

Maggie De Vore said to Pamela Redmond Satran
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Woof -- this just pushed one of my most sensitive buttons.  Am so very very puzzled about having to -- or being encouraged to -- get with it and get sucked into a world of teenagers who are supposed to be learning from their schools, work-mates, neighbors, elders, etc.  -- and yet -- those of us who would teach are told to stop it and get 'with it' and learn their ways.  Bollocks!!!  I cannot learn to love punk rock, heavy metal or their musical tastes.

  I cannot learn to text and text and join their methods of communicating and don't want to.  I cannot and will not drop my 'language' to suit these young people - who are ever-changing - and who need to hear and become part of the 'adult' world - eventually. 

Not sure where you met all these young positive, optimistic folks.  I have to agree that what goes around comes around and what you give comes back. Their taste in movies, music, dress-code, conversation (mostly grunts) etc. does not suggest positivity to me - rather a subtle, but effective way of arrogance and an f... you to society.  I am positive it will not last -- unless big business wants it to. 

If I were to adapt to the 'younger, hipper' generation - unless I also took up some kind of mind-bending habit, (to look cool) I'd be wearing mini-skirts, stick a phone in my ear, reduce communication to grunts or instructions to 'text me', learn by you-tube (which can be helpful, but not all the time) - and think I am 'entitled' more than any other generation I have had the displeasure of observing.

I believe one can be positive and still make an opinion without shooting anyone down. 

 Insecure because of my experiences? -- my dear, you may have gotten that one totally wrong.  Have you never heard of ancient civilizations who passed their stories on to the younger generations for hundreds of years in order to keep alive traditions, culture, knowledge, wisdom???  It was our generations who built this country and I can only hope these young people who are so laid back and low-key (maybe because of their drugs of choice) grow up and take over their legacy with some degree of pride and courage.

Our generation had a wonderful work ethic -- today -- not so much.  Many of this generation don't want to start at the bottom as we did -- they feel entitled to be Chairmen of the board immediately.  And -- though it's a whole new subject -- that is one of the most important reasons we have an immigration problem  - the illegal  aliens are not afraid to do the 'dirty' work our own turn their noses up at.

How can one maintain cultural relevance and not become a trend slave if that is exactly what you are implying we should do.  Whose culture?  Whose trend??

If I have offended you, I am truly sorry -- as I said - this is a touchy-touchy with me. 

Pure and Natural