Fashion Sense or Nonsense? Most Liked Hot Conversation

I started out reading an article on the 6 Rules of Cleavage and it led me to the Top Ten Items You’re Too Old to Wear which led me to a book on Amazon titled How Not to Look Old by Charla Krupp. Back at the articles, I followed another link to Mom Jeans, Visible Panty Lines and 8 other Fashion Disasters, when it occurred to me, how in the heck did I ever survive dressing myself without the help of these women all my life?

Seriously … NOT!!

I mean, come on. It’s all a matter of common sense, really, isn’t it? But, apparently not. There are still women out there, everyday, who want to dress like they’re still in their teenage years, and they’re pushing 40, 50, or older. I shudder just thinking about it.

I’m mean, come’on. Give it up, ladies!

There’s “Daytime Cleavage” and there’s “Nighttime Cleavage” right? Be respectful and the older you get, the more support you need, am I right? No one needs to see granny au’natural! I know that my “twins” have changed shape and size many times over the years and I’m giving them all the support I can — they appreciate it and I do too. Gravity has not been kind. Not to mention, I’m sure someone like the grocery clerk appreciates it as well, not having to see me “hanging” in the wind, if you know what I mean.

When it comes down to it, though, if there’s a list of don’ts, then there’s a reason for them. Someone had to be told, “Hey, I think you’re too old to wear Mickey Mouse barrettes in your hair.” Or, “Mom, you can’t borrow my Mary-Kate & Ashley glitter nail polish anymore!”

Do we need the Fashion Police to measure the number of inches of cleavage we show or announce to the world that everyone over 30 must now wear boot cut jeans to compensate for our “mom” butts?

Hardly.

All we need are just some good common sense fashion tips and we can still look trendy without looking like the last lonely “Material Girl” from a Madonna video.

Take t-shirts with messages on them. There’s an age and body for glitter and shine on t-shirts. Especially with flirty messages like “CUTIE PIE!” and “I’M A FOX” And, sorry, but that age has to have a one or maybe a two in front of it. Any older and you’re just a cry for help.

The same goes for those micro-mini skirts! Oh my God, I saw one on a woman at a concert the other night. Please, if you have to keep pulling on it to make it longer, then it’s TOO SHORT! When she sat down, the skirt completely disappeared! Hello! Nobody wants to see that! According to the “Top 10 Items You’re Too Old to Wear” the cut off age is 40 for micro-mini skirts, I say that’s pushing it, but then that’s me.

Like I said before, it’s just a matter of common sense. But, just in case, read the articles. If anything, they’re good for a few chuckles.

And, ladies.. watch those VPL’s!!

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  1. Sunblossom Sunblossom says

    Common sense and a full length mirror, and then TURN AROUND and look at the rear view…I am astounded, especially in the summer, at the less than class act in attire….I think I can look tasteful, modest and sexy at the same time….do you think it is the ever-present “magazine” images, of which not many post pictures of women 60+ and then if they do it is usually an ex-supermodel, who had good heredity and genes to begin with….ie Lauren Hutton…

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    • Vicki M Taylor Vicki M Taylor says

      I think the magazine “More” does a good job of keeping up with mature women fashions. But, you’re right, women need to use common sense and turn around and look at their behinds in the mirror before leaving the house!

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  2. Dallas Lady Dallas Lady says

    Everyone has opinions about what does or doesnt look good.  Opinions are like derrieres….everyone has one, but very few people are that interested in yours.  Best to keep it to one’s self.

    But you know what–I think what’s more important to care not about how someone looks but how they feel.

    I’m 52.  I dress how I like.  I dont need fashion police of any kind to monitor or opine.  Dont like how I dress?  I dont give a rip.   I wont comment on your attire if you’ll keep your lip zipped about mine.

    Live and let live. 

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    • Debi Drecksler Debi Drecksler says

      I agree 100% Dallas Lady!

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    • Debi Drecksler Debi Drecksler says

      I agree WITH YOU 100% Dallas Lady!  ( I was too late to edit and realized I might have confused you about who I was agreeing with!)

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    • Generic Image Jo-ey says

      I’m leaving this for the person who wrote the article not necessarily DL. Please stop with all the stupid rules. We women do not need to be told anything about how to live and certainly not to dress. This is a poorly written and useless article. We’ve been dressing the way we like all our lives. I don’t care one way another how anyone dresses. Why don’t you write about something meaningful like the environment or global warming effects or something that actually makes a difference.
      I dress the way I choose. I’m 60, I have a great enough body (for 60) I wear tight ripped jeans if I want … I don’t wear mini skirts. But I don’t need to be told how to dress. Just stop it.
       

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    • Generic Image Raffila says

      Couldn’t agree more.  If You are happy, then I am too.  If happy about how you look means you have your titties in my face, your skirt barely covering your crotch, you’re wearing the hair you had in high school, too much makeup and accesories from your daughter’s closet AND you’re happy?  Well that’s wonderful.
      Our society gets nastier and more judgemental every day.  Women over 50 who dress too youthful don’t look any worse than women under 50 whose clothes don’t fit them right, who don’t know how to choose hair and make up.  They shouldn’t be singled out and required to conform. 
      LIfe’s too short for this pettiness.  and that’s what it is.. petty and unimportant.  Be yourself. Be happy.  If your work requires you to fit in–make the proper fashion adjustments as your living depends on it–otherwise: Have Fun.
       

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  3. ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

    Like DL, I dress how I want to dress, although you don’t have to worry about the cleavage and/or mini skirts on me.  It’s not happening.  However, those Mickey Mouse barrettes?  They sound like they’re really happening. ♥

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  4. Debi Drecksler Debi Drecksler says

    I live near Asheville, NC where people feel comfortable dressing as they like and doing their own thing. I’m more interested in what is on the INSIDE then on the outside. I don’t like judgmental people. They are the kind who would exclude you for all the wrong reasons.

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  5. Deanie Deanie says

    I’ve seen way too much cleavage these last few years……and I’m not talking about breasts!  Where are the fashion police when we need them?

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    • ThurmanLady ThurmanLady says

      Now that made me smile!  I do recall reading a while back that some town banned “falling off” pants/shorts with underwear showing.  While I don’t necessarily agree with that idea, where in the heck are the parents of some of these kids and where is the common sense?  Oh, I know – common sense isn’t exactly common.  Oh, well. ♥

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  6. Vicki M Taylor Vicki M Taylor says

    I think we all know what looks good on us and what we can carry off at our age. We can be trendy and youthful. Flirty and fun. We just don’t have to look like we’re trying too hard. It’s all in our attitude.
     

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    • Luc's Mi'Mi' Luc's Mi'Mi' says

      Well said, Vicki!
      BTW:  If I had to declare three fashion pet peeves for either sex:  gallons of fragrance worn in public (gals and guys), sloppy posture for mico-mini skirters (girls and women of all ages) and mankinis (sorry guys).

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      • Vicki M Taylor Vicki M Taylor says

        Mimi, I’m with you on the fragrance. Why do people have to bathe in it? It’s especially irritating for those of us with allergies.

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  7. Generic Image Tropicgran says

    I don’t mind even elderly women wearing low-cut blouses.  The wrinkly skin, turkey neck thing is fine with me.  Dangly, wrinkled arms–no problem.  It’s what happens to us.  I don’t think we need to start wearing turtle necks and long sleeve shirts all the time.  I don’t even care what wrinkly, overweight people wear to the beach, as long as your body parts stay inside the suit.  (I am wrinkly and overweight, OK?)  But I don’t like older people dressing like they’re in their teens and 20′s.  It just looks so obvious and like they’re trying too hard to recapture youth. But if you like it, I love it! I would rock a Mickey Mouse barrette, though, LOL!

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  8. PatBennettAZ PatBennettAZ says

    I think that the best advice was “look in the mirror” – and that goes for all ages!  I am fortunate that I can wear the jeans (may be a Mom, but no “Mom butt” – so why not buy things that fit?)  And yes, you can still look appropriate in a pair of Lucky Jeans or Victoria’s Secret, if you buy the right size!

    I am not sure what exactly is “age appropriate” anymore - if we work at maintaining our weight and body, then one should be allowed to dress in something that fits. 

    I’m not trying to recapture my youth, I like where I am right now, and just don’t want to be put into a certain “style”!

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  9. Generic Image Mary H says

    Totally agree. And don’t forget that most of us shouldn’t be wearing sleeveless either. I think this rule goes for as many younger women as older ones! Most arms are flabby and pale.

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  10. Trinity River Trinity River says

    I never was into the shirts with cutie pie or juicy, but I do love my Tshirts. I wear them looser now. Don’t need to treat anyone to my backfat buldge. I got rid of that problem by wearing looser bras or just a cami underneath it all. It’s all about comfort for me now.

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  11. fischerpat fischerpat says

    Personally, I don’t want to see ANYONE with T & A hanging out too much.  I’m not a prude and glad to show my decollete on occasion, but I’m tired of seeing kids walking around advertising their bodies in clothes that are too high, too low and too tight.  Aside from that, who cares what anyone wears really?  As long as a bit of good taste is exercised, we should all be able to wear whatever we like without anyone judging us.

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  12. Sharyne Wolfe Sharyne Wolfe says

    I have addressed this issue in my book, “The Fashionista’s Shopping Guide to the Galaxy of Discount New York Fashion.’
    DRESS YOUR AGE?
    I don’t fully agree with this premise.  Sure if you’re 70, you shouldn’t dress like a 15 year old and wear midriff baring tops and low-cut jeans. (I actually have seen 15 year olds that shouldn’t be decked out in that outfit.)  But, I worked with a woman who at 75 had fabulous legs.  She wore short skirts to show them off, not skirts that  “let it all hang out “ and gave you a glimpse of what she had for breakfast, but they were short and she looked great.  Look at Tina Turner.  Why should age dictate your clothing style?  Select your wardrobe with common sense.

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  13. Ronna Snyder, author, Hot Flashes from Heaven Ronna Snyder, author, Hot Flashes from Heaven says

    I have found that the two best fashion police I know are in my immediate family: My daughter and DIL who are fashionistas in their own right and yet now mothers and over 30.  

    “Look in the mirror” isn’t particularly good advice to aging people who don’t keep “fresh eyes”.  In other words, they haven’t educated their visual palate to what’s “current” and what’s “frumpy old-school.” 

    It took me letting the girls into my “inner sanctum”, my closet, to figure that out. 

    A couple weeks ago, I tried on almost everything I own for them and got either a thumbs up or a thumbs down.  They were merciless.  And bluntly honest. “Whoa, 500 lb. woman!” my DIL roared when I came out in my brand new Nordstrom vanilla slacks that I’d yet to have the guts to wear.  (Ok, so back in my twenties, when I was actually a professional model, I rocked the all-vanilla outfits!  But, like I said, my “eye” needed an upgrade!)

    The pile of “un-approved” was far higher than the “approved” still hanging in my closet.  (I took those to a homeless shelter and the gals loved my stuff!)

    Then we went shopping.  I mean HARD CORE.  As in jeans-shopping at The Buckle.  I thought I’d die.  Literally took a half a Xanax I was so freaked out at trying to find cool looking jeans with my girls watching on.  ”Calm down, Mom,” my daughter soothed.  ”You are going to try to on 20 pair to find one pair that fits perfect. We do it all the time.”  They are both size fours and 5’8″ and the fact that trying on jeans is, well, aerobic exercise for them, comforted me.  I obeyed.  And eventually rocked a pair MissMe jeans that instantly peeled ten years off my body, my wardrobe AND my mental attitude!  I was hooked but winced at the hundred dollar price tag.  ”You have no choice,” my bossy daughter said heading towards the cash register, “I’m buying these jeans for you!”
    I teared up.  Not because I can’t afford hundred dollar jeans.  But because here was my daughter acting all grown-up on me and teaching me a thing or two about my value AND my looks!  And then I smiled.  And didn’t stop smiling for days after that.  :)

    At the next store, Plato’s Closet, a chain store of consignment clothes that have a young slant and tiny price tags, unbeknownst to me, the two played a little game.  They brought me top after top.  (Probably 50 in all.)  Whoever brought me the MOST items that “worked” got a point for each top and was the winner. Who knew dressing me could be a competitive event?!

    I walked out of there with a gynormous bag and an entire new wardrobe.

    Since then, I’ve received more compliments than I’ve had in the past couple years, demonstrating to me that I really HAD kind of lost my middle-age-mojo and didn’t even realize it.  A male acquaintance of my husband’s recently called me a “trophy wife”.  Not bad for 60 years of age and 36 years of marriage!  :)

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    • Generic Image Towanda says

      This is wonderful!!!!  I wish I could borrow your daughter and daughter-in-law!  I need the same kind of help!

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    • lisa shore lisa shore says

      What a fantastic time you must have had!! Those memories will be treasures. You have such a great relationship with your daughter and DIL. I think I will have to snafoo my gals and do the same thing. You are so right about the “all-vanilla” outfits! I have always loved them until I looked at myself with a flash of fresh eyes. I literally blinked and saw the reality of the wide load staring at me. Honestly! A good optical illusion always works and that’s why we wear black on the BOTTOM!

      It’s all about perception. How we feel about ourselves and present to our world. If we feel young enough to want to wear fun things, that’s great. The challenge is getting them to fit right. If we go into the 20-something stores, the clothes just aren’t made to flatter gals our age (unless you are thin thin and always will be – you gals can wear anything!). There are great stores that are age appropriate and have hot stuff.

      Perception is everything. How we feel about ourselves dictates how people percieve us. A trophy wife at 60? You go girl!! You are fabulous!!

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  14. onesheila onesheila says

    I don’t know if I can add to an already great conversation, but my book, All About the Vet, A Sharing of Life Experiences for Women of Honor, I addressed this subject in my chapter on fashion. “Finding what works best for you is a true fashion statement. Wear clothes that flatter your body and don’t think you have to give up on clothes that are stylish and youthful just because you are maturing and your body is changing. If you got it, show it, if you don’t have it, there are a variety of fabrics and accessories today that make you look like you do.”
    “With fashion it is all about making the selections that best suit your body and lifestyle.” This statement is true regardless of your age. As said before, “just make sure your choices make sense.”

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  15. Robin Joy Robin Joy says

    Isn’t it more important to be fit, healthy and comfortable in your own skin? We are all individuals and what is right for one isn’t right for another. I went through my own personal transformation. Yoga, meditation, cardio workouts and weight training changed my life. I am 59 years old and just returned to acting. I got my first real people modeling job after only 3 print auditions. I have never felt better or looked better in my life. I don’t pay attention to rules. My hair is long. I’ve read women over a certain age shouldn’t have long hair. Who says? I have individual style.

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  16. madeline madeline says

    Hello, I’ve read all the post on this thread and decided to toss my thoughts into the mix.  I’m 72, never modeled in my life, and dress in a manner that would be considered ‘young’ by the standards of most any 35 or 40 year old woman.  Yes, some skirts are two or three inches over my knees, and I do, on occasion, display a bit of cleavage (but mine, not breast tissue rather more pec definition). And yes again, I do have a measure of ‘crepey skin’ (mentioned in a previous post), just below my triceps and above my elbows, but do still display my arms on occasion.  It was difficult for me to overcome the popular consensus of opinion, in some circles, that women should cease efforts to remain attractive beyond “a certain age”.

    I find it interesting and heartening that most of those who responded to this thread indicated a broad and open mind. If not in strict agreement, ‘fashion life and interest’ needn’t cease because one is “sixty something” at least most all seem to concur that  ‘common sense’ in regard to visual realities should be the prevailing guide in determining  a woman’s  clothing style.

    It would be disingenuous to suggest there are not aspects of my body that I wish were otherwise as I do, but I refuse to allow this bit of ‘crepey skin’ or “popular wisdom” to intimidate me, preventing me from wearing clothing that I enjoy and think still attractive.

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  17. Generic Image justannesopinion says

    I am sitting in a casual restaurant across from a man who look about 75 wearing shorts above the mid thigh and a tight polo shirt. I don’t think that is the most flattering look he could pick, but I would not have particularly noticed him if I had not just read this article. He looks comfortable and content. He clearly does not think he needs to “cover up” like some kind of leper. If he picks up a favorite publication or blog, it is most unlikely it will tell him he isn’t “allowed” to dress as he pleases.

    Women over 50 should wear what they think is flattering, appropriate to the occasion and comfortable, just like everybody else. We are not a separate caste that needs to be bullied and intimidated into choosing from a narrow range of “approved” clothes.

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  18. Generic Image kiki12 says

    You know I agree that common sense should prevail, but really it is really one’s own business what they wear.  If anything, I think a lot of women my age (60) dress too old.  pantsuits, too much matching stuff, like our mothers.  I personally like a little more style, I love my jeans.  I don’t have a great body, so I try and camoulflage.  I think you can age yourself by dressing too old.

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  19. Vicki M Taylor Vicki M Taylor says

    I love all this dialogue and chatter! Your opinions are wonderful! Thanks for all the responses. I found a wonderful quote that I thought perfect for the article:
    “Fashion can be bought. Style one must possess.” ― Edna Woolman Chase
     

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  20. Generic Image Jo-ey says

    I posted to this string yesterday and it has never shown up. Does anyone know why??

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    • Beth - VN Staff Beth - VN Staff says

      Jo-ey,

      If you scroll up — or do a “find” on the page– you’ll see your post from yesterday that begins, “I’m leaving this for the person who wrote the article not necessarily DL.” I assume that’s the one you’re talking about? If not, please let me know.

      All the best,

      ~Beth

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  21. Generic Image Jo-ey says

    Anyway … my post of yesterday just simply said that we don’t need to be told what to do or what to wear. We are big girls and can do what we want. It annoyed me that we are talking about how someone else should look while there are so many more important things to write about and discuss. I wear what I want and good for all of you who replied the same.

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  22. Ronna Snyder, author, Hot Flashes from Heaven Ronna Snyder, author, Hot Flashes from Heaven says

    Thanks, all, for all your “likes” on my post.  Lisa, I would have agreed with you about there not being clothes in those “young” stores that fit the aging body until my stylist-daughter and DIL showed me the wonder of spandex.  As in the stretchy-gluey-stuff that’s totally changed denim jeans.  And then forced me to squeeze myself into them at The Buckle.  Who knew?  A jean-girdle????  No wonder the younger generation pours themselves into them!

    Same goes for the tops.  But my girls, who are extremely respectful of my age, showed me that so many of today’s tops that younger women wear (the blousey type with a wide panel that can be adjusted on, or below, the rear-end) really hide far MORE than the “old lady” stores’ behind-the-times tops.   

    I seriously doubt I could have done this without “my girls” and, yes, I’m blessed that they love me and we have so much fun together. But many of you (who’ve said you wished you could “borrow” them from me) actually have someone like them in your life:  A younger woman with incredible style and enough honesty that she’ll tell you what she REALLY thinks.  Ask her out to go shopping with you.  (What woman can refuse that??:) Tell her you need some wardrobe advice. Then start by shopping in your OWN closet.  And be merciless.  Then trot on over with the main focus on one good pair of jeans that are not “mom jeans”….nor, God forbid…..”grandmom jeans”.  That’ll get your motor running and you’re off to the races!  A few contemporary tops, a pair of shoes that make your heart pound and, honey, you’ll feel like a new woman.  Tip:  My girls have sworn me to an oath of ONE piece of bling per outfit. (I have a tendency to overdue things.) Or one animal print per outfit.  But not both.  Another faux pas I’d clearly disregarded for farrrr too long.

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  23. Generic Image Jeanee says

    I actually stopped reading O magazine when they published an article on dressing that said women over fifty should not wear jeans!!! Good grief we’re just talking about a type of fabric here. My mother is 83. When I bought her a set of Amanda jeans in denim and colors for Winter she couldn’t say enough about not having to wear a girdle because the zip front with pockets was light control and made her feel good.
    I swore I would never be one of those ” old women” in peddle pushers and mules with big hair and to much makeup but now for my boomer generation maybe the equivalent is a jeans skirt only a few inches above the knee with platform sandals and long hair!? I raced off to the market for something in this, with my long hair that’s always twisted up, down and actually saw guys looking at me look quickly away as they got closer and saw a face in it’s late fifties. I had to think a lot about still being a size six and being comfortable like I was but…..well it embarrassed me! What do you think? Was it bad karma for my own negative judgement?

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  24. Vicki M Taylor Vicki M Taylor says

    I’m going to be 50 this year, I still wear jeans, skinny jeans too. And the other day in the Target parking lot, I had a very nice looking MUCH YOUNGER man give me a way long look, and he even spoke to me and gave me a “come hither” look.  Boy, did that make my day! If you’ve read my weight loss article, you’ll realize that I’ve gone from a size 20 to a size 4 and being a size 4 now is a whole lotta fun!

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