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Exciting news for zen twenty-ten!  Vibrant Nation has offered to republish my blog on their site!  Finally, the fame and recognition that my blog deserves.  Just like Julie and Julia.  A book deal can’t be far off.  Kidding, kidding!  But I am excited to share my blog with new readers.

Except like most zen twenty-ten postings, the news is bittersweet.  When I checked out Vibrant Nation, it was a site for women over 50!  Is that my demographic?  Crap!  No offense to women over 50, which I will soon be myself, and no offense to Vibrant Nation, which is a great site and to whom I am very grateful.  But as I said in an earlier posting, I don’t feel almost 50.  I hardly even feel adult a lot of the time.  So it’s kind of funny that I’m inadvertently appealing to the exact audience that I don’t feel a part of, but which in fact I am a member.  And I’m sure many Vibrant Nation readers feel exactly like I do.

This experience reminded me of when, in the early days of this blog, a very nice reader listed my site in the blogroll on her blog and I was so excited until I discovered that she had listed it under a category that included “hoarding.”  Double crap!  I may be pushing 50, but I’m not a hoarder!  Really!  I just have a little clutter problem….

So welcome, Vibrant Nation readers.  And to my male and younger readers, don’t go away.  My content won’t change.  I’ll only be encouraged to write more frequent and perhaps funnier posts.  Kind of like the annoying punster uncle or the class clown adolescent boy about whom you say, “don’t laugh – it will only encourage him…”

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  1. Generic Image Scuba P says

    If you’re not at least 50 you shouldn’t be here.  You also shouldn’t be addressing men on this site.  And you might also want to get rid of your almost 50 or over 50 stereotypes! 

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    • Beth - VN Staff Beth - VN Staff says

      Scuba,

      The rules say no men can post here, but they could be reading. It’s important to remember that.

      There is no age rule. Vibrant Nation is about a life stage — a particular time of life that occurs around 50. It occurs at different particular ages for each woman.

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        Thanks for clearing that up Beth, but if this is a site for women only, why even bother addressing men in our posts.  It changes the entire feel of the conversation and the site.  I also thought women had to be 50 and over – my bad.  Where did I get that impression I wonder?

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      • Beth - VN Staff Beth - VN Staff says

        Scuba, many of our bloggers repost their writing here and address a larger audience on their site — as is the case with Zen Twenty-Ten. The resulting conversation on this site, however, will be what the members here make it.

        I’m sure that you got the impression from our tagline “what women 50+ know,” however our members generally range from 46 to 60. I tell any woman who asks, “if you feel at home, you’re probably in the right place.” Again, it’s about a stage of life, not a number.

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      • Debi Drecksler Debi Drecksler says

        I will be 60 on January 29th, 2011 and I hope to be part of Vibrant Nation until I am at least 100…As my Bubbi would say, “From your mouth, to his ear!”

        It really is all about attitude! p.s.  Welcome to Vibrant Nation  zentwentyten

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      • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

        Thanks!  I’m excited to be here – especially given the high level of passion of the readers!

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        count me as confused then.  i thought this site was for women 50 and over.  your “about us” page confirms that for me.   i understand what you’re saying here but it does not match what the “about us” page says.  just sayin’……

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        VibrantNation.com is the leading online community devoted exclusively to the influential and fast-growing demographic of smart and successful women over 50. At Vibrant Nation, these women (whom we’ve named “Vibrant Women”) can look for tips, share information, and join in smart conversations about work, style, relationships, wellness, books, and more.

        Vibrant Women represent the healthiest, wealthiest, most educated generation of women in history, yet their real strengths and interests are generally ignored in the marketplace. As a result, they rely even more than others on support and information from other women like them when making important decisions. VibrantNation.com is the place where they can connect with other women at their lifestage and discuss the issues they are passionate about.

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        lol…probably the same place i got it from.  on the “about us” page.   Beth’s answers here have only confused me cause they seem to be in contrast to the “about us” mission statement.

         

        nothing personal against zen-twentyten or her men/younger audience but i’m hoping Beth will come back and respond with some clarity regarding the mission statement of VN. it seems that if it’s “devoted exclusively to women over 50″ then it doesn’t seem like zen-twenty’s much broader audience she writes for fits that criteria.   maybe they just need to change the mission statement.    

         

        anyway, just wanted to let you know that you’re not alone on thinking this was a site for women 50 and older only.  

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      • Beth - VN Staff Beth - VN Staff says

        VibrantNation.com is for women 50+ because women tell us that around age 50 they find themselves entering a new stage of life where they welcome the chance to connect with and support other women like them.  We welcome women who can enter into the spirit of that community.

        We reference “Women over 50″ as the fastest growing demo because their population (and spending power) is so inconsistent with the attention they receive in the marketplace, and therefore they benefit from a safe, secure online community just for them.   Women in their 40s may enjoy VibrantNation.com because they are already dealing with the same issues as other members.  It would be silly for us to deny them membership simply because they haven’t reached a specific age.  We’re not AARP! ;-)

        There may be times when we would moderate (hide or delete) conversations because they become dominated by an under-50 crowd. That’s because “50+” refers to a specific stage of life and frame of mind. We do expect any younger visitors to respect that and talk about related issues only. There are plenty of other online communities for them.

        So, in short, women 50+ is a clear way to talk about a whole set of “Vibrant Women” in this life stage. We hope that clears up any confusion.

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        what i was hoping you would address is the part that i pointed out that’s confusing which is the sentence i highlighted in your “about us” mission statement that says the website is “devoted EXCLUSIVELY to women over 50.”  your generalized statements to Scuba and me do not clarify that statement.  in fact, they actually contradict it.  hence, my suggestion that maybe that sentence should actually be changed so as not to be confusing when we find out differently.  

         

        the words EXCLUSIVELY FOR WOMEN OVER 50 would mean NO WOMEN YOUNGER THAN 50 and NO MEN.  at least to me.  am i really wrong to assume otherwise that aside from lying that there would not be women under 50 and no men period posting or blogging here on a site set up EXCLUSIVELY for women over 50?  

        as well as the bolded part about being able to connect here with other women at our same lifestage (meaning the exclusive part of over 50 mentioned earlier.)

        not meaning to be a pitb, just wanting some validation that it does give a mixed message between that written statement and what you’re saying now.  

        again, maybe it would be less confusing to re-word the mission statement to better match what you’ve said here in your response to us.  

        i do appreciate your time and attention you gave to our posts tho.

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      • Beth - VN Staff Beth - VN Staff says

        The community guidelines are what regulate the community. There is a rule about men, but no age limitations are mentioned for our women members.

        Our tagline and mission statement language are meant to capture the spirit, tone and subject matter of the site. We use the term 50+ as we hear women themselves use it, to describe a life stage and the topics that relate to it.  We’ve had well over a million visitors to the site and it hasn’t hindered us one bit from creating the vibrant community you enjoy today. You may not “know” how old another member is, but you can certainly recognize authenticity!

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        Dragonfly, I’m glad I’m not alone in my confusion.  I was beginning to question my comprehension abilities!

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        maybe the problem is that we’re TOO good at reading comprehension! lol…

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        hmm…

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        I responded to your pm…Did you get it?

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    • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

      Wow, sorry!  It’s my first posting so I’m still learning the site.  But the post was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.  Didn’t mean to offend.

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        i’m just curious as to how you plan on not changing your blog (as you stated) for your readers who are younger women and men but still appeal to the strictly (well vast majority anyway) over the age of 50 women here?  it just seems like our topic interests would be so different otherwise, what was the point of setting up this exclusive website for women over 50 to begin with?  

        sorry, i’m logical to a fault plus have an inquiring mind and no offense intended towards you at all. 

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      • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

        Hi there! I now realize that I shouldn’t repost all my blog entries – only the ones relevant to the Vibrant Nation community.   Which, I think, will be most of them, since my blog is about my efforts to achieve balance and harmony in life (i.e., zen), starting with my attempts to become more organized and a better housekeeper.  This is a subject that many women can relate to.  But I will be more careful in the future before reposting, to make sure my content is appropriate and of interest to Vibrant Nation readers.  Thanks for your interest and for reaching out.  And logic is a good thing!

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        Oh no, please tell me you didn’t come here to discuss housecleaning!  LOL

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        lol…so funny that we were typing about “no thanks” to housecleaning tips at the same time now!  thanks to zentwentyten, i think i found me a soul sister here! 

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        thanx sista….you’re very sweet.

        btw….I love the film Dragonfly

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      • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

        Don’t worry – I rarely follow through!  It’s more about my attempts and struggles – but hopefully told humorously.  I’m the last person to give anyone housekeeping tips! :)

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      • dragonfly dragonfly says

        lol..ok, i was a very organized and excellent housekeeper while raising 4 kids.  had to be to get it all done and have time to spend with kids.  now, i have time for my own interests and while i certainly can still appreciate organization and like a clean house, it’s just not as time consuming nor important with just my hubby and me.

         we also used to grow a huge garden for 20 years and grew and canned almost everything we fed our kids.  a lot of work and energy but well worth it all back in the day.  nowadays, farmer’s market for us instead! lol…

        nowadays our interests lie in learning to trade stocks and traveling and learning yoga and meditation.  also, volunteering to help others wherever we can.  

        but as far as zenlike harmony and balance in everyday life, i’m up for hearing more about that.  and i think you’ve certainly displayed your zen-ness and graciousness in dealing with our posts to you.  

        thanks for your kind attention to my questions and welcome to VN!  

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      • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

        Thank you!  You sound like you definitely have the right priorities.  I hope you like my soon-to-be-published post about my attempt at yoga! 

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        I’m a proud, disorganized, lousy housekeeper and intend to stay that way!

        And yes, Zen has been most gracious…..through our VN initiation by fire!

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      • Generic Image Scuba P says

        Sorry Z if I was a little gruff, but I was looking beyond the tongue-in-cheek and still saw stereotypes.  This is also the first time I’ve seen men addressed on VN, except to ask them to leave.  There are plenty of other sites that are mixed, and that’s what makes VN different.  If, however, VN continues to encourage men into this space via blogs such as yours, then I for one will lose interest pretty quickly.  Just so you understand, I love men and have had great relationships with them, but this is a space, or so I thought, for women to interact solely with each other.  I enjoy sharing ideas and observing vibrant female energy without male interference and without watching women cow-tow to men for their approval. 

        Good luck on your blog…..you probably won’t see me around because I prefer the give and take of discussions.

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      • zen twenty-ten zen twenty-ten says

        No problem.  Since I’m new, I just reposted the entry directly from my blog, which as Beth said, has a wider audience.  In the future, I’ll only repost entries that are relevant and of interest to the Vibrant Nation community, because I agree that it’s wonderful to have a site just for older women and it shouldn’t be diluted.  Thanks for your comments.  Your reaction helps me to be more mindful about what I write and post for the future.

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  2. Dr.She Dr.She says

    Welcome Zen. I’m 50 but I feel 25 mentally so don’t let the age stop you.  As you write, also read and you’ll find lots of great ladies and great wisdom here. Open up and soak it in.  :-)

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